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Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons

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  • Z [email protected]

    It's being used to research fusion too

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    I know, I regularly sleep with one of the researchers involved with several similar pojects (aren't I cool). Fascinating stuff though! Very much not comparable to commercial LLMs, though.

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      Freeze! Vegan police!

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        'AI vegan'....

        Where I come from, saying something that stupid will get you killed.

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          It's not cool to use "vegan" like this.

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            I don't. If it makes me a Luddite, I'm a Luddite.

            What doesn't change is that this is a train heading toward a derailment at highspeed while on fire.

            Just today I had to walk through why GitHub copilot should not be used for security purposes. I explicitly told the engineer that a constructed url would be detected as a potential XSS vector by our vulnerability scans. They implemented several things, most of which did nothing. Finally, I grabbed the documentation on how to fix it, gave them the line number, gave them the function, and let them build and test it. It ran through the scans and of course it passed.

            I get the desire from leadership. I really do. But I'm more interested in our products not costing us more, especially when the LLMs are going to fail the economy on a wide scale.

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            • guillem@aussie.zoneG [email protected]

              The worst was the Col scandal.

              (Sorry. So sorry)

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              Please see yourself out

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                Stupid title, but in all honesty, now would be the time to create a new religion where there are restrictions on hyper modern things like AI, robotics, etc.

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                We must not create a machine to counterfeit human thinking. That could be the most important phrase in the entire thing.

                Almost like there might already be a text or novels out there that warn on the dangers of mankind's hubris.

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                • jerkface@lemmy.caJ [email protected]

                  It's not cool to use "vegan" like this.

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                  It's like vegangate or something.

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                    Well shit, I didn't know they had a name for us. That's cool.

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                    I can't say I'm a (normal) vegan, but I'm definitely an AI vegan. I was turned off by the ethical considerations, and the few "bites" I have tried leave a bad taste in my mouth. I avoid using it because much of the training data was (and is) stolen, the power costs are far too high compared to the utility, and it's basically worthless to me, having a screwed up response to nearly every prompt I tried.

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                      Freeze! Vegan police!

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                      Chicken's not vegan?

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                      • capuccino@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                        "the dark souls of" vibes

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                        I'm a soulslike vegan.

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                          It’s quite common for me to be annoyed, angry, or upset at a headline writer. Then there’s the feeling I got reading β€œMeet the AI vegans.”

                          Whole new level.

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                          Yeah, pretty disappointing to see from the Guardian.

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                          • gsus4@mander.xyzG [email protected]

                            I'm an LLM freegan, I guess. But I'm cutting back too, the usefulness peaked.

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                            freegan

                            If they had come up with something original like that, it would have been better. But creating constructive neologisms takes work, I guess.

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                              Shitty click baity title

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                                I'm choosing to abstain because it's shit. The ethical things are just a bonus. It produces inaccurate information and bland soulless images.

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                                It doesn't produce information, it produces text. Expecting that text to contain information is a fools errand

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                                • gnulinuxdude@lemmy.mlG [email protected]

                                  I also try, but it is invoked on my behalf. For instance, at work if I make a pull request now multiple AI bots are summoned to give an analysis of my code changes. It's extremely verbose and annoying, and I think basically nobody reads it because all it does is just spam the comments section with way too much text.

                                  I vehemently hate OpenAI, ChatGPT, et al. At least it's funny when it summarizes my changes as significant improvements that improve code maintainability. I guess getting glazed by the bot in a way my manager can see is helpful to my career? Though honestly he probably also doesn't read that shit. So glad all this energy is wasted for nothing.

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                                  It is sickening how much slop is created that will never even be looked at.

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                                  • guillem@aussie.zoneG [email protected]
                                    • Teetotalers: alcohol vegans.
                                    • Straight edgers: drug vegans.
                                    • Recycling: waste vegans.
                                    • Solar power: power vegans.

                                    The possibilities are infinite if you are a netaphor vegan.

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                                    • Cyclists: transport vegans
                                    • Hippies: war vegans
                                    • Vegans: food vegans
                                    • Lemmy users: social media vegans
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                                      If anyone says the words "AI Vegan" to my face, I'm throwing shit.

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                                      • D [email protected]

                                        "Theres no fucking gun to your head."
                                        Bosses: πŸ¦œπŸ€– πŸŸ°πŸ’Ή, πŸ‘¨β€πŸ’ΌπŸ”«πŸ€“

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                                        Not just bosses. Tech companies have leveraged a good portion of the world's economy on AI, and are shoveling money directly into the ovens to shove it down our throats.

                                        No one asked for any of this. Not a goddamn soul asked for AI order takers at McDonald's. Because it's not about choice. The choice to abstain is going to get more and more painful to make as time goes on. By design.

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                                        • jerkface@lemmy.caJ [email protected]

                                          It's not cool to use "vegan" like this.

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                                          Got a good chuckle out of me tho

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