Who remembers alt.fan.tonya.harding.whack.whack.whack ?
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I never really understood what usenet actually was. How does it compare to Lemmy or Mastodon?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Picture Lemmy, where anyone can create and subscribe to communities about whatever, only without the multimedia or link posts. Everything, at least in the beginning, was strictly text-based posts and threaded replies.
(Ways to attach binary files such as images were hacked in by converting the binary data to text. That's still how email attaches files today, though it's all behind the scenes and not obvious to average users anymore.)
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Also alt.adjective.noun.verb.verb.verb was a pretty common name for, uh, shitposting newsgroups. Whatever we called shitposting back then, I can't remember.
alt.wesley.crusher.die.die.die
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I never really understood what usenet actually was. How does it compare to Lemmy or Mastodon?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Usenet never really went away, it just got quieter in favor of easier to use options. I still use it pretty frequently for the couple of things is really good for.
It's a gross oversimplification, but think of usenet as a kind of early social media or proto-forums. Before websites, facebook, or anything resembling the modern internet took off, news groups were howl ike-minded people connected. You could post articles to various groups, sort of like a dead drop, and that post would be related around to all of the various providers based on who subscribed to whom. The user interface was very similar to an email client and you could look at it like sending email to a global address (with no user@ part)
The structure of usenet was based on dot syntax, with the topic scope becoming progressively more narrow as you went along. You would have things like:
alt.books.scifialt.books.scifi.authors
alt.books.scifi.authors.asimov
or
comp.softwarecomp.software.unix
comp.software.unix.compilers
with each of those groups focusing on more specific topics as they went down the hierarchy, and thousands of groups and subgroups.
Usenet was one of the first federated services, too. Due to how replication was managed, no one single server or host controlled it. Your server could go down, but any other server that replicated (federated) with your instance would have all the same articles unless they were marked as a "local only" group.
This is all very early in the internet, but i feel like this is the kind of thing that will save us in the end. Federated services, newsgroups, personal websites, and forums can free us from the shackles of Corp owned platforms. It's amazing how relevant it still is for a technology spun up in the early 80s. Wikipedia has a great article on usenet that everyone on a fediverse platform should read to help understand how we got here and how quirky and weird and fun the old internet used to be (and hopefully can be again)
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My favorite newsgroup of this ilk was alt.wesley.crusher.die.die.die
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Let me explain the situation for those who don't know:
Once, there was this girl who
Swore that one day she would be a figure skating champion
And when she finally made it,
She saw
Some other girl who was better
And so she hired some guy to club her in the knee cap.
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Let me explain the situation for those who don't know:
Once, there was this girl who
Swore that one day she would be a figure skating champion
And when she finally made it,
She saw
Some other girl who was better
And so she hired some guy to club her in the knee cap.
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That I still remember both of their names is troubling when I can't remember shit I actually care about.
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I won't make any claims as to accuracy but I did enjoy the movie - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I,_Tonya
it ony a movie!
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Let me explain the situation for those who don't know:
Once, there was this girl who
Swore that one day she would be a figure skating champion
And when she finally made it,
She saw
Some other girl who was better
And so she hired some guy to club her in the knee cap.
How does this story end? I mean, did the girl that swore to be a skating champion achieved her dreams
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alt.swedish.chef.bork.bork.bork
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.swedish.chef.bork.bork.bork/c/9ijawD1JG_Y
I love when I get halfway through an old usenet thread before I realise the date the messages were posted
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How does this story end? I mean, did the girl that swore to be a skating champion achieved her dreams
️️️?There's a movie about it starring Margot Robbie called "I, Tonya"
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I'm a sadist, I'm addicted to this heroin,
You're Tonya Harding and I'm your Nancy Kerrigan!
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I'm a sadist, I'm addicted to this heroin,
You're Tonya Harding and I'm your Nancy Kerrigan!
Lloyd Braun, I just wanted serenity
But you had to go testin’ me, gave me suicide tendencies
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Usenet never really went away, it just got quieter in favor of easier to use options. I still use it pretty frequently for the couple of things is really good for.
It's a gross oversimplification, but think of usenet as a kind of early social media or proto-forums. Before websites, facebook, or anything resembling the modern internet took off, news groups were howl ike-minded people connected. You could post articles to various groups, sort of like a dead drop, and that post would be related around to all of the various providers based on who subscribed to whom. The user interface was very similar to an email client and you could look at it like sending email to a global address (with no user@ part)
The structure of usenet was based on dot syntax, with the topic scope becoming progressively more narrow as you went along. You would have things like:
alt.books.scifialt.books.scifi.authors
alt.books.scifi.authors.asimov
or
comp.softwarecomp.software.unix
comp.software.unix.compilers
with each of those groups focusing on more specific topics as they went down the hierarchy, and thousands of groups and subgroups.
Usenet was one of the first federated services, too. Due to how replication was managed, no one single server or host controlled it. Your server could go down, but any other server that replicated (federated) with your instance would have all the same articles unless they were marked as a "local only" group.
This is all very early in the internet, but i feel like this is the kind of thing that will save us in the end. Federated services, newsgroups, personal websites, and forums can free us from the shackles of Corp owned platforms. It's amazing how relevant it still is for a technology spun up in the early 80s. Wikipedia has a great article on usenet that everyone on a fediverse platform should read to help understand how we got here and how quirky and weird and fun the old internet used to be (and hopefully can be again)
A few years ago I subscribed for a few months, but didn’t dive too deep. Is there still a social aspect to usenet these days or is it just file sharing? It would be great to find forums and such.
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A few years ago I subscribed for a few months, but didn’t dive too deep. Is there still a social aspect to usenet these days or is it just file sharing? It would be great to find forums and such.
It's almost 100% file sharing these days. Something I greatly lament. The entry barrier seems like it's just too high these days. That could probably be fixed with better client software, but it would also require a willingness for folks to get on board with a "dead" platform. Lemmy growing as much as it has was nutty. I'm not sure that could happen again
