Now I finally get it
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You realize SP is satire right?
Yes the original wording explicitly forbids adult men from fucking males that have not themselves reached full adulthood
The wording roughly would be man should not fuck adolescent male it is abhorrent
I mostly see it as an exaggeration rather than satire.
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I mostly see it as an exaggeration rather than satire.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Satire
the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.
I'm a bit pedantic about words and their meanings
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Just fyi. The original Hebrew version is anti pedo not anti gay. I'm certain this link won't be popular, but . https://jewishstandard.timesofisrael.com/redefining-leviticus-2013/
Also Leviticus is old testament. So this is less relevant/generally superceded by newer text.
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All humans decent from Adam and Eve, yet they only had 3 sons.
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Also Leviticus is old testament. So this is less relevant/generally superceded by newer text.
Only for Christians. I would assume this still holds for Jewish people, as well as some christians who still holds to the Old Testament due to Jesus saying that the old text will not be superceded.
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What i interpreted is basically if you have gay sex your sentence is to smoke a bunch of weed
Can I do it the other way round? Like how people ask for forgiveness before doing the sin
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All humans decent from Adam and Eve, yet they only had 3 sons.
Gen 5:4 "After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters."
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Gen 5:4 "After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters."
800 years? He had other sons and daughters, with who? His mom? His brothers? I know Christians love incest but 2 brothers can't have kids AFAIK. So he had sex with his mom?
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800 years? He had other sons and daughters, with who? His mom? His brothers? I know Christians love incest but 2 brothers can't have kids AFAIK. So he had sex with his mom?
Problem is Genesis was written before the religion it was written for decided it was a monotheist religion that believed it was the only truth. So Yaweh created Adam and Eve, who had a couple of sons, one killed the other, but then that other went out and joined up with the other people made from other gods or titans or whatever, somehow convinced some of them to join his clan for a god that loved them, but then hated them because they sought knowledge (via eating fruit lol they really didn't want their followers to be able to figure out shit to the point of even misdirecting them for how one obtains knowledge).
Where it falls apart even considering the original context is Noah's flood, because that did apparently wipe everyone out except one mating pair per species, so how did Noah's descendents repopulate the world without other populations to hook up with?
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Also Leviticus is old testament. So this is less relevant/generally superceded by newer text.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Because the New Testament is better? The NT is especially sexist towards women. Like:
- they need to be quiet (1 Cor 14:34-35)
- they can't divorce but men can (Matthew 5:32 and 19:9) and it implies she has no autonomy since his act alters how she is viewed
- also 1 Timothy 2:9-15 is quite the ride, with dressing modestly to worship God, be quiet, fully submit, no teaching a man, be quiet again, men came first, women sinned first, and only birthing children can save them.
Holy shit. Those are just a few.
But it is true the Old Testament is quite the doozy.
We gotta go back to the good Old Testament for one of my favs (Genesis 19):
Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodomāboth young and oldāsurrounded the house. They called to Lot, āWhere are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.ā
Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, āNo, my friends. Donāt do this wicked thing.Ā Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But donāt do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.ā
Then later his wife was turned to salt cause she bad (because of course only women do bad things, didn't yiu know? /s). Then his daughters, who had been spared what you read above, wound up getting their dad drunk and fucking him in a cave to continue the bloodline.
Now, realize this whole story is being told cause Lot was the right God-loving soul they just HAD to save before Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. Everyone else was "worse?"
The lesson I was taught when I was younger was that Lots daughters were evil and this was in zero way Lots fault (the incest). He apparently didn't raise them to be that way. You know, with his attitude of "please fuck my daughters and spare the rest." Somehow their actions were in no way reflective of his character as a father.
Also we ignore the part where he tried to give them away to be raped by an entire town.
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Problem is Genesis was written before the religion it was written for decided it was a monotheist religion that believed it was the only truth. So Yaweh created Adam and Eve, who had a couple of sons, one killed the other, but then that other went out and joined up with the other people made from other gods or titans or whatever, somehow convinced some of them to join his clan for a god that loved them, but then hated them because they sought knowledge (via eating fruit lol they really didn't want their followers to be able to figure out shit to the point of even misdirecting them for how one obtains knowledge).
Where it falls apart even considering the original context is Noah's flood, because that did apparently wipe everyone out except one mating pair per species, so how did Noah's descendents repopulate the world without other populations to hook up with?
Fucking thing's got plot holes big enough for a sperm whale to swim through comfortably and yet it's regarded as 100% literal truth by most lunatics governing us and most of the mouth breathers that voted for them.
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Fucking thing's got plot holes big enough for a sperm whale to swim through comfortably and yet it's regarded as 100% literal truth by most lunatics governing us and most of the mouth breathers that voted for them.
That's why Jesus was sent to retcon most of it and replace it with "just don't be a dick".
They nailed him to a tree for that.
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All humans decent from Adam and Eve, yet they only had 3 sons.
Motherfuckers
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Only for Christians. I would assume this still holds for Jewish people, as well as some christians who still holds to the Old Testament due to Jesus saying that the old text will not be superceded.
wrote last edited by [email protected]For reference, here's that verse, Matthew 5:18:
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Thats the KJV, here's a NKJV:
For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
Here's a bunch of other translations:
https://biblehub.com/matthew/5-18.htm
Absolutely tons of branches/denominations use this to justify upholding whatever their particular interpretation of whatever law they perceive from the Old Testament, the Tanakh/Torah.
'The law' is literally what Torah means in Hebrew, the Torah is the first five books of the Old Testament, The Tanakh broadly is the entire Hebrew Bible.
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800 years? He had other sons and daughters, with who? His mom? His brothers? I know Christians love incest but 2 brothers can't have kids AFAIK. So he had sex with his mom?
He had a wife called Eve. Surprised you missed that small detail.
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Everybody must get stoned!
Bob Dylan, Rainy Day Woman.
https://www.songlyrics.com/bob-dylan/everybody-must-get-stoned-lyrics/
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Because the New Testament is better? The NT is especially sexist towards women. Like:
- they need to be quiet (1 Cor 14:34-35)
- they can't divorce but men can (Matthew 5:32 and 19:9) and it implies she has no autonomy since his act alters how she is viewed
- also 1 Timothy 2:9-15 is quite the ride, with dressing modestly to worship God, be quiet, fully submit, no teaching a man, be quiet again, men came first, women sinned first, and only birthing children can save them.
Holy shit. Those are just a few.
But it is true the Old Testament is quite the doozy.
We gotta go back to the good Old Testament for one of my favs (Genesis 19):
Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodomāboth young and oldāsurrounded the house. They called to Lot, āWhere are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.ā
Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, āNo, my friends. Donāt do this wicked thing.Ā Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But donāt do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.ā
Then later his wife was turned to salt cause she bad (because of course only women do bad things, didn't yiu know? /s). Then his daughters, who had been spared what you read above, wound up getting their dad drunk and fucking him in a cave to continue the bloodline.
Now, realize this whole story is being told cause Lot was the right God-loving soul they just HAD to save before Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. Everyone else was "worse?"
The lesson I was taught when I was younger was that Lots daughters were evil and this was in zero way Lots fault (the incest). He apparently didn't raise them to be that way. You know, with his attitude of "please fuck my daughters and spare the rest." Somehow their actions were in no way reflective of his character as a father.
Also we ignore the part where he tried to give them away to be raped by an entire town.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Lot's offer to the mob was meant to be an allegorical lesson on obligations to guests. Basically a hyperbolic 'this is how far you have go to protect guests in your house.' In the modern age it would be a hotel clerk holding off a mob with a shotgun or something like that.
I'm not sure if the cave incest had a lesson behind it, but the impetus was his daughters thought they were the last people on earth and were trying to restart the population themselves. I don't think they were meant to be seen as evil for it.
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800 years? He had other sons and daughters, with who? His mom? His brothers? I know Christians love incest but 2 brothers can't have kids AFAIK. So he had sex with his mom?
wrote last edited by [email protected]There is nowhere information that God created Earth as first planet and first human there, there is information he created planet and things or at most a galaxy but there is no information nowhere that it was first planet or first galaxy. He just found empty spot in space. It's pretty possible to do it if you could manipulate matter how you want and have unlimited energy source. That's just terraforming to be honest.
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Lot's offer to the mob was meant to be an allegorical lesson on obligations to guests. Basically a hyperbolic 'this is how far you have go to protect guests in your house.' In the modern age it would be a hotel clerk holding off a mob with a shotgun or something like that.
I'm not sure if the cave incest had a lesson behind it, but the impetus was his daughters thought they were the last people on earth and were trying to restart the population themselves. I don't think they were meant to be seen as evil for it.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Thanks for reminding me of one of so many reasons I abandoned the family from my childhood and all their toxic abusive apologists in our schools and churches.
Incredible you're in here defending throwing your own children to mob rape.
I will tell you from experience that in religious schools and churches they LOVE to obsess over the tiny line of Lots wife looking back and turning to salt, while pretending the other shit didn't happen or avoiding the topic, or giving it a simple "he was weak or scared" or making it some kind of non-literal thing when convenient (and then other times angrily demanding the Bible is literal).
Allegory or not, Lot is a piece of shit, and it's unsurprising that a man who would offer his daughters to a mob for rape would also raise them to think sleeping with him is okay. Its reflective of his character; the way they think.
Also, he knew what they did and let it happen. If he was THAT passed out drunk to not remember or know, he was not erect. He fucking knew and let it happen.
Let's pretend this is merely a story to teach a lesson. Wow. That's the best they got? This is the kind of guy that is worth saving from the town before destruction? This is what these religions held up at the time as the primo example of someone to save and keep alive? They have no better way to teach lessons about fearing God, much less morality.
Fucking pathetic for anyone to even attempt the apologetics on this.
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Thanks for reminding me of one of so many reasons I abandoned the family from my childhood and all their toxic abusive apologists in our schools and churches.
Incredible you're in here defending throwing your own children to mob rape.
I will tell you from experience that in religious schools and churches they LOVE to obsess over the tiny line of Lots wife looking back and turning to salt, while pretending the other shit didn't happen or avoiding the topic, or giving it a simple "he was weak or scared" or making it some kind of non-literal thing when convenient (and then other times angrily demanding the Bible is literal).
Allegory or not, Lot is a piece of shit, and it's unsurprising that a man who would offer his daughters to a mob for rape would also raise them to think sleeping with him is okay. Its reflective of his character; the way they think.
Also, he knew what they did and let it happen. If he was THAT passed out drunk to not remember or know, he was not erect. He fucking knew and let it happen.
Let's pretend this is merely a story to teach a lesson. Wow. That's the best they got? This is the kind of guy that is worth saving from the town before destruction? This is what these religions held up at the time as the primo example of someone to save and keep alive? They have no better way to teach lessons about fearing God, much less morality.
Fucking pathetic for anyone to even attempt the apologetics on this.
In not sure how you see that as a defense. I think you might be projecting your own issues on others.
