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Seized, settled, let: how Airbnb and Booking.com help Israelis make money from stolen Palestinian land

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    For anyone wondering, yes the BDS Movement is having an impact. If anyone wants to join, the No Thanks App Apple Android makes it as easy as a quick search or barcode scan

    Affirming the role the BDS movement has played in the Israeli economy’s “spiral of collapse,” as 130 leading Israeli economists describe it, in September, the Chairman of the Israeli Export Institute said: “BDS and boycotts have changed Israel’s global trade landscape.” He added, “Economic boycotts and BDS organizations present major challenges, and in some countries, we are forced to operate under the radar.” Israel’s projected annual GDP growth rate for 2024 is 0%, according to leading credit rating agency S&P, and some 60,000 Israeli businesses are projected to have shut down during this year of ongoing genocide.

    https://bdsmovement.net/Indicators-BDS-Global-Impact-July-December-2024

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    If some dev could get that app to F-Droid would be great

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      Not every comparison is whataboutism. This looks like more "Israel Bad" virtue signaling than it does helping Palestinians.

      I do think maybe it's a good idea to think about how we treat similar situations before we decide that a company should not do business with a particular ethnicity in an area.

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      I do think maybe it's a good idea to think about how we treat similar situations before we decide that a company should not do business with a particular ethnicity in an area.

      Right wing (but not far-right) genocide defenders speak in vagueries because what they say is not compatible with the truth. It is pathetic.

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        If some dev could get that app to F-Droid would be great

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        You can still find it on apkpure or something like that for those that want to avoid the app store

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          The villa is stunning. The private swimming pool; the lush, landscaped terrace with firepit; the long dining table with its expansive balcony view; the pingpong table; the piano.

          But the jewel in the crown, according to the Airbnb listing, is the experience of watching the sun rise over the nearby mountains from the luxury of the generous master bedroom.

          The villa with views of the Judean mountains is in a settlement located on land seized from Palestinians and considered illegal under international humanitarian law.

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          I already don't use airbnb but booking.com? Almost all holidays. That would be really hard to replace. Does anyone have any alternatives (other than directly calling the hotels obv)? I guess one could atleast minimally search from booking.com and then first check if the hotels you are interested in have their own online reservation systems. But it will probably be much less guaranteed than booking.com and one could easily end up with a holiday ruined and a mere apology for "making a reservation mistake"

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            I already don't use airbnb but booking.com? Almost all holidays. That would be really hard to replace. Does anyone have any alternatives (other than directly calling the hotels obv)? I guess one could atleast minimally search from booking.com and then first check if the hotels you are interested in have their own online reservation systems. But it will probably be much less guaranteed than booking.com and one could easily end up with a holiday ruined and a mere apology for "making a reservation mistake"

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            Hotels are generally fine but if you really need the warranty it is difficult to decouple. Most alternatives are daughter companies of booking.com.

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              Would you also ask airbnb to delist homes in East Jerusalem owned by Palestinian Israelis? Or is it only Jewish Israelis that should be boycotted?

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              You want to know what would stop that kind of thinking?

              Ending apartheid

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                I love how they stopped prodding once you got straight to the point and they didn't know what to say.

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                Just not engaging with foolish arguments.

                Who are "the colonists?" Should we boycott Christian Palestinians who were part of the colonization of the crusades? Should we allow companies to do business with Jews in historically Jewish areas like the Old City of Jerusalem or Hebron, even though they are are on the Palestinian side of the Green Line? Do colonists include Palestinians who came to the West Bank from Jordan between 1948 and 1967? Are all Israelis colonists, regardless of whether they are Jewish, Palestinian, Druze, etc?

                It seems like the comment was either a cowardly way of avoiding saying "yes, boycott the Jews," or else it came from a place of astounding historical ignorance. Either way, it's not worth my time to continue.

                Will the reply to this be a thoughtful, informed response, or a zingy one-liner designed to dunk on an unpopular opinion?

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                  You want to know what would stop that kind of thinking?

                  Ending apartheid

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                  Great, what would that look like? Other than buzz words, what specific policies would you like to see changed?

                  Presently Israel is about 20% Palestinians, who have passports, study and teach in the same universities, vote, serve in the government, serve in the highest levels of the Judiciary, have guaranteed rights to practice their religion freely, educate children in their family's language, etc. Please let me know if you would like sources for any of this. I'm happy to provide them.

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                    Great, what would that look like? Other than buzz words, what specific policies would you like to see changed?

                    Presently Israel is about 20% Palestinians, who have passports, study and teach in the same universities, vote, serve in the government, serve in the highest levels of the Judiciary, have guaranteed rights to practice their religion freely, educate children in their family's language, etc. Please let me know if you would like sources for any of this. I'm happy to provide them.

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                    Is that why The UN

                    Is also demanding the same thing?

                    Do you really see the Palestinians being free? As they're actively killed?

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                      Is that why The UN

                      Is also demanding the same thing?

                      Do you really see the Palestinians being free? As they're actively killed?

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                      What mention of religion should be removed? What is the region?

                      The article you posted noted that there was freedom of movement before the first Intifada. That was ended by the Oslo Accords, in which both Israel and Palestine agreed to a two-state solution.

                      Palestinian leadership rejected all agreements for statehood, which led to the talks falling apart. This included a deal that included 91% of the land of the pre-1967 West Bank, and a land trade agreement to compensate for that remaining 9%, and a capital in East Jerusalem. Instead, they initiated the second intifada.

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