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Why don't protestors who oppose Trump/ICE open carry their guns to prevent what's currently occuring in the US ie kidnapping, assaults etc?

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  • F [email protected]

    No shit. That's the problem. You bring your friends and the cops will bring their tanks. Then what, have a dick measuring contest?

    ... Oh wait, they'll gun you all down and laugh about it instead.

    So yeah, guns can be used, but let's not pretend flexing your firearm in public will easily accomplish your goal. Be thoughtful and careful about when and where.

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    Well, 20$ drone go brrr

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    • renlinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zoneR [email protected]

      Hong Kong was definitely not even close to a dedicated insurgency, in large part because the majority of the population appears to understand that they're better off with China than they ever would be with the UK. China never even came close to deploying tanks and bombs either, terrible example.

      Northern Ireland was much more successful while they were still fighting, then popular support for the IRA waned due to concessions on the part of the UK because they could see they weren't going to win.

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      They folded under pressure, they knew they were dealing with the risk of being disappeared.

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        They folded under pressure, they knew they were dealing with the risk of being disappeared.

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        Cool story

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        • renlinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zoneR [email protected]

          Cool story

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          Ok, gotcha.

          +150 social credit points!

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            Ok, gotcha.

            +150 social credit points!

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            Lol really living up to your username bud

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            • renlinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zoneR [email protected]

              Lol really living up to your username bud

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              You already won, China just needs to wait, and pick up the ashes. All your competition just killing itself.

              Tf you want? Why not just stop pretending, go mask off, declare to everyone whatever the truth is? Why play around, no insurrection is possible.

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              • renlinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zoneR [email protected]

                *foment, dumbass

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                So you understood what I was getting at? Language is descriptive, not proscriptive. People who make fun of others for jargon or misuse typically don't have much going for their argument or position.

                Also, see here: https://www.dailywritingtips.com/ferment-and-foment/

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                • M [email protected]

                  It would just escalate things. A few armed confrontations one week and the next week it would be tanks and Apache helicopters. Cops love to escalate.

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                  Escalation seems to be needed. This is what America's 2nd amendment is supposed to be used for.

                  Bunch of hypocrites.

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                  • C [email protected]

                    We may reach that point.

                    We should try a general strike first. We don't even need to combine it with protests. We just have everyone stay home and refuse to work. You can fight the government by playing old video games or watching TV.

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                    The only significant general strike planned right now happens in 2028 from the Auto Workers Union.

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                    • S [email protected]

                      You're entire argument is that guns are bad and haven't helped anyone fight off the oppressor. It's why you called out gaza and Cambodia...

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                      Please find the quote where I said guns are bad.

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                      • W [email protected]

                        Are you fucking stupid?

                        Aiming a gun at a cop is significantly worse than brandishing. Why would I try to argue what you're saying unless I'm an idiot?

                        Oh, wait a minute. Gotta tap the sign.

                        Glad I stopped trying to find logic in the average person.

                        Also ignored. I know I won't be able to tolerate any more drivel from someone like you.

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                        In colorado last month, a teen was shot dead by police for simply saying he was going to shoot up a business. No fire arm was involved on his part. Just an aggrevated teen having a mental health crisis. The mental health crisis team didnt even get a chance to show up. The cops killed the kid within 5 minutes of getting there.

                        The cops here dont give a fuck about the distinction. They are trained to shoot to kill once they feel scared in america. By the IDF.

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                        • M [email protected]

                          So you understood what I was getting at? Language is descriptive, not proscriptive. People who make fun of others for jargon or misuse typically don't have much going for their argument or position.

                          Also, see here: https://www.dailywritingtips.com/ferment-and-foment/

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                          I understand that you're attempting to discredit someone who is 100% correct by making shit up and that you're also illiterate

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                          • W [email protected]

                            You already won, China just needs to wait, and pick up the ashes. All your competition just killing itself.

                            Tf you want? Why not just stop pretending, go mask off, declare to everyone whatever the truth is? Why play around, no insurrection is possible.

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                            What ashes? What the fuck are you talking about?

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                            • C [email protected]

                              Why? If the population here was as committed as a population overseas I hardly see what the difference is, besides the fact that Americans are way better armed.

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                              Americans are stupid enough to have put all their personal information into facebook and wouldn’t know how to organize without a billionaire fascist’s big brother app.

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                              • F [email protected]

                                Best and simplest answer is that technically they're still considered law enforcement. Nearly everything they're doing is constitutionally illegal, but only the courts have the right to determine that.

                                If we start threatening police with guns, every single nook and cranny of our legal system justifies the police murdering us. Maybe some cops would get paid leave for a few weeks, or possibly even lose their badges, but that's about it.

                                And then they'll use it to justify an even more inflated budget for ICE, and everything will get exponentially worse.

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                                So second amendment is totally useless then.

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                                  So second amendment is totally useless then.

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                                  Against a government with modern weaponry? Yes.

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                                    Please find the quote where I said guns are bad.

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                                    Your whole point has been to say that privately owned arms are going to be worthless against a military. That's basically saying guns are pointless and civs have no reason to own them.

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                                      So second amendment is totally useless then.

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                                      It is if the majority of the people with guns support the traitorous government.

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                                      • S [email protected]

                                        Is this not the reason the second amendment exists?
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                                        Edit: I'm not advocating for violence. More so "a well regulated militia" which could be established by protesters or Democratic Governors for genuine self defence.

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                                        Because guns are there to enforce tyranny, not to prevent it. It's just they're finally saying the quiet part out loud.

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                                          So second amendment is totally useless then.

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                                          Yes. It was a fantasy written in a different time.

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