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Why don't protestors who oppose Trump/ICE open carry their guns to prevent what's currently occuring in the US ie kidnapping, assaults etc?

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  • renlinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zoneR [email protected]

    Cool story

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    Ok, gotcha.

    +150 social credit points!

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      Ok, gotcha.

      +150 social credit points!

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      Lol really living up to your username bud

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      • renlinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zoneR [email protected]

        Lol really living up to your username bud

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        You already won, China just needs to wait, and pick up the ashes. All your competition just killing itself.

        Tf you want? Why not just stop pretending, go mask off, declare to everyone whatever the truth is? Why play around, no insurrection is possible.

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        • renlinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zoneR [email protected]

          *foment, dumbass

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          So you understood what I was getting at? Language is descriptive, not proscriptive. People who make fun of others for jargon or misuse typically don't have much going for their argument or position.

          Also, see here: https://www.dailywritingtips.com/ferment-and-foment/

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            It would just escalate things. A few armed confrontations one week and the next week it would be tanks and Apache helicopters. Cops love to escalate.

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            Escalation seems to be needed. This is what America's 2nd amendment is supposed to be used for.

            Bunch of hypocrites.

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              We may reach that point.

              We should try a general strike first. We don't even need to combine it with protests. We just have everyone stay home and refuse to work. You can fight the government by playing old video games or watching TV.

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              The only significant general strike planned right now happens in 2028 from the Auto Workers Union.

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                You're entire argument is that guns are bad and haven't helped anyone fight off the oppressor. It's why you called out gaza and Cambodia...

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                Please find the quote where I said guns are bad.

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                  Are you fucking stupid?

                  Aiming a gun at a cop is significantly worse than brandishing. Why would I try to argue what you're saying unless I'm an idiot?

                  Oh, wait a minute. Gotta tap the sign.

                  Glad I stopped trying to find logic in the average person.

                  Also ignored. I know I won't be able to tolerate any more drivel from someone like you.

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                  In colorado last month, a teen was shot dead by police for simply saying he was going to shoot up a business. No fire arm was involved on his part. Just an aggrevated teen having a mental health crisis. The mental health crisis team didnt even get a chance to show up. The cops killed the kid within 5 minutes of getting there.

                  The cops here dont give a fuck about the distinction. They are trained to shoot to kill once they feel scared in america. By the IDF.

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                    So you understood what I was getting at? Language is descriptive, not proscriptive. People who make fun of others for jargon or misuse typically don't have much going for their argument or position.

                    Also, see here: https://www.dailywritingtips.com/ferment-and-foment/

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                    I understand that you're attempting to discredit someone who is 100% correct by making shit up and that you're also illiterate

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                      You already won, China just needs to wait, and pick up the ashes. All your competition just killing itself.

                      Tf you want? Why not just stop pretending, go mask off, declare to everyone whatever the truth is? Why play around, no insurrection is possible.

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                      What ashes? What the fuck are you talking about?

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                        Why? If the population here was as committed as a population overseas I hardly see what the difference is, besides the fact that Americans are way better armed.

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                        Americans are stupid enough to have put all their personal information into facebook and wouldn’t know how to organize without a billionaire fascist’s big brother app.

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                          Best and simplest answer is that technically they're still considered law enforcement. Nearly everything they're doing is constitutionally illegal, but only the courts have the right to determine that.

                          If we start threatening police with guns, every single nook and cranny of our legal system justifies the police murdering us. Maybe some cops would get paid leave for a few weeks, or possibly even lose their badges, but that's about it.

                          And then they'll use it to justify an even more inflated budget for ICE, and everything will get exponentially worse.

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                          So second amendment is totally useless then.

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                            So second amendment is totally useless then.

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                            Against a government with modern weaponry? Yes.

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                              Please find the quote where I said guns are bad.

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                              Your whole point has been to say that privately owned arms are going to be worthless against a military. That's basically saying guns are pointless and civs have no reason to own them.

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                                So second amendment is totally useless then.

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                                It is if the majority of the people with guns support the traitorous government.

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                                  Is this not the reason the second amendment exists?
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                                  An Australian
                                  Edit: I'm not advocating for violence. More so "a well regulated militia" which could be established by protesters or Democratic Governors for genuine self defence.

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                                  Because guns are there to enforce tyranny, not to prevent it. It's just they're finally saying the quiet part out loud.

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                                    So second amendment is totally useless then.

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                                    Yes. It was a fantasy written in a different time.

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                                      Is this not the reason the second amendment exists?
                                      Regards
                                      An Australian
                                      Edit: I'm not advocating for violence. More so "a well regulated militia" which could be established by protesters or Democratic Governors for genuine self defence.

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                                      • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                        Escalation seems to be needed. This is what America's 2nd amendment is supposed to be used for.

                                        Bunch of hypocrites.

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                                        Americans are cowards. This is an expected outcome.

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                                          Your whole point has been to say that privately owned arms are going to be worthless against a military. That's basically saying guns are pointless and civs have no reason to own them.

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                                          Privately owned guns will hopefully lower the morale of the occupying force which is why they are already trying to get guns away from liberals. Specifically trans people by calling it a mental illness, and they have already laid the ground work by calling antifa a terrorist organization to take weapons from anyone “suspected of terrorist activity”, they can then do things like using palantir to figure out who owns a weapon and also purchased cannabis (and just happen to be liberal weird how the algorithm only seems to find them) and start offering people to surrender their weapons or be charged with a felony.

                                          The idea that the army is going to just go to war with a city overnight is ridiculous but a slow campaign designed to dehumanize those against the party and in that process take their weapons is a very logical scenario that can easily make those guns useless

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