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Who will be the villains in future Hollywood movies?

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    I suspect that, just like Columbia University and CBS, some Hollywood movie studio is going to decide to try to make Trump happy by feeding him the kind of self-congratulatory bullcrap he loves to hear, and they're going to make a full-on big ticket studio movie about some kind of barely-veiled (if that) MAGA hero busting heads to fuck up the evil Democrats. Basically along the lines of "My Home Village," absolutely equally shameless.

    It sounds nuts from today's POV, but I think it's better than 50% that at least one is going to get made before all of this is over.

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      Russians, Chinese, anything from the middle east that's not Israel... Anyone except the US basically.

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        I suspect that, just like Columbia University and CBS, some Hollywood movie studio is going to decide to try to make Trump happy by feeding him the kind of self-congratulatory bullcrap he loves to hear, and they're going to make a full-on big ticket studio movie about some kind of barely-veiled (if that) MAGA hero busting heads to fuck up the evil Democrats. Basically along the lines of "My Home Village," absolutely equally shameless.

        It sounds nuts from today's POV, but I think it's better than 50% that at least one is going to get made before all of this is over.

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        It's not exactly what you're referring to, but "Twisters" - the sequel to the tornado movie - was pretty weird.

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          The Russians are pushing to take back the spot the Talibans took from them in 2001, meanwhile China is making a strong argument for it too.

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            The humans.

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              American/Western moral relativism has reached such heights that they already made heroic protagonists out of the villains of all popular stories/recognizable IPs, lol.

              What's left? Mmm. Talking ethnoculturally, probably East and West Asians. And Muslims, of course.

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                Russians, Chinese, anything from the middle east that's not Israel... Anyone except the US basically.

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                Come on now. You think Hollywood execs have the balls to turn down money from China?

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                  No real figures is my prediction. Future villains will be made up sanctions that at best could be seen as narrative parallels to existing people/countries/groups.

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                    Chinese Robots

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                      I suspect that, just like Columbia University and CBS, some Hollywood movie studio is going to decide to try to make Trump happy by feeding him the kind of self-congratulatory bullcrap he loves to hear, and they're going to make a full-on big ticket studio movie about some kind of barely-veiled (if that) MAGA hero busting heads to fuck up the evil Democrats. Basically along the lines of "My Home Village," absolutely equally shameless.

                      It sounds nuts from today's POV, but I think it's better than 50% that at least one is going to get made before all of this is over.

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                      This. Expect to see feminist, environmentalist, Communism, and queer coded characters make a big comeback as movie villains. It's the 80s all over again!

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                        Honestly. With the direction things are going?

                        Democrats. Especially 'socialists.' Woke people. Though in disguise, at first.

                        And yes, this is salty take, but consider showing 2025 to someone in 2005.

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                          Honestly. With the direction things are going?

                          Democrats. Especially 'socialists.' Woke people. Though in disguise, at first.

                          And yes, this is salty take, but consider showing 2025 to someone in 2005.

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                          That's already been a thing. It's well documented that super hero movies' villains all usually start as people who just want to change the status quo, but then do one ultra violent thing to make destroying them justified.

                          Even Thanos had a very real point, they just made him a monster by acting on it violently. But they never went back to "uh, but he did have a point, his world did literally die because they exhausted the resources". But how could you ever side with him when he violently acted on it, so his point must be invalid.

                          Repeat ad nauseum for most other superhero movies.

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                            The humans.

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                            X-Men inbound!

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                              That's already been a thing. It's well documented that super hero movies' villains all usually start as people who just want to change the status quo, but then do one ultra violent thing to make destroying them justified.

                              Even Thanos had a very real point, they just made him a monster by acting on it violently. But they never went back to "uh, but he did have a point, his world did literally die because they exhausted the resources". But how could you ever side with him when he violently acted on it, so his point must be invalid.

                              Repeat ad nauseum for most other superhero movies.

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                              Not sure about the movies but in the comics Thanos is in love with Death, who often appears as a woman. He had roundabout ways of justifying his acts of destruction when he really wanted to do a grand gesture to show his love for Death. Because, if you have the power to kill half of all people in the universe, you have the power to implement some decent economic policies instead.

                              It's even more relatable when a villain really wants something people won't support so they change the branding and find a few examples to support their claim.

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                                That's already been a thing. It's well documented that super hero movies' villains all usually start as people who just want to change the status quo, but then do one ultra violent thing to make destroying them justified.

                                Even Thanos had a very real point, they just made him a monster by acting on it violently. But they never went back to "uh, but he did have a point, his world did literally die because they exhausted the resources". But how could you ever side with him when he violently acted on it, so his point must be invalid.

                                Repeat ad nauseum for most other superhero movies.

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                                Hollywood has traditionally been rather socially liberal.

                                Just wait until 'uncomfortable with certain lifestyles' sneaks in as a Marvel hero trait, as Disney needs to 'address diverse markets.'

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                                  None. New gen Hollywood will be so politically correct that there will only be remakes of Bambi without the hunters.

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                                    Unnamed countries that are totally not Iran.

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                                      depends on the genre, copaganda/military propaganda/us govtganda, mostly going to be ME and russians villians. even mcu/dcu are based on either nazis or russians.

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                                        I suspect that, just like Columbia University and CBS, some Hollywood movie studio is going to decide to try to make Trump happy by feeding him the kind of self-congratulatory bullcrap he loves to hear, and they're going to make a full-on big ticket studio movie about some kind of barely-veiled (if that) MAGA hero busting heads to fuck up the evil Democrats. Basically along the lines of "My Home Village," absolutely equally shameless.

                                        It sounds nuts from today's POV, but I think it's better than 50% that at least one is going to get made before all of this is over.

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                                        mostly copaganda movies, or military propaganda to shore up enlistments qoutas like with the recent top gun(the primary military forum said they had a surge in numbers of enlistees because of the movie. and the enemies would be russians or ME, or POCs.

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                                          Hollywood has traditionally been rather socially liberal.

                                          Just wait until 'uncomfortable with certain lifestyles' sneaks in as a Marvel hero trait, as Disney needs to 'address diverse markets.'

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                                          the movies, but not the actors many turns out to be quite conservative.

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