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What's the weirdest thing you're upset about?

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  • F [email protected]

    I'm not looking to debate. I just don't know what you are talking about

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    Well, alright, but I'm not going to argue about any of this.

    The Fermi paradox basically says "based on what we think we know about how the universe works, we should be seeing obvious signs of alien intelligence in it. But we don't, so we're wrong about something we think we know." The problem is that we don't know what we're wrong about.

    It is common in various science fiction and space related subreddits for people to confidently sweep in and declare that obviously the reason that aliens aren't around is <insert some vague shower thought here>. As if all the thousands of researchers working on these concepts were all just a bunch of idiots who hadn't thought of whatever they'd thought of.

    A common class of these sorts of shower thoughts involve assuming that every single alien species and culture, throughout all of time and space, conform to some particular notion they have of how aliens should think. Some sort of "prime directive" or Nirvana-seeking conscious refusal to go out into the cosmos to colonize new solar systems, or conversely some kind of pessimistic self-destruction that everyone dives into without exception. I try to explain why these sorts of explanations don't work well, I question their basis for making these assumptions, and I usually get some form of "oh, so you're saying you know how all aliens are going to think and behave?" Shot back at me. Which, of course, is exactly the opposite of what I'm saying.

    Another common theme is the "nothing will ever be possible in the future unless we've already done it now and have an economically practical example" approach, usually to try to argue that space travel or colonization is impossible. The other day I had someone who ultimately argued that it was impossible because steel would evaporate over time in a vacuum, so building spacecraft that lasted longer than a few centuries couldn't be done. I pointed out the examples of billion-year-old metallic meteorites and he dismissed them because "meteors don't need structural stability."

    I try to address these arguments rationally, with math and references to actual research, but end up butting into a position of pure faith. It's incredibly frustrating. As befits the topic.

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    • fritzapollo@lemmy.todayF [email protected]

      Those plastic bags at the grocery store, to put loose fresh produce in? Why the fuck do they never open easily? With all these whizz-bang technologies we've developed, you'd think someone would design/make bags you don't have to wrestle with to open.

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      I want to bring reusable ones but everything is measured by weight and that fucks up the scale

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      • F [email protected]

        I pee in that bad boy every time. Sometimes when it's a real yellow one it smells like popcorn

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        Hmmm...

        I half trust you then I guess but you're still a spy!

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          I want to bring reusable ones but everything is measured by weight and that fucks up the scale

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          Weigh the produce before putting it in the bag.

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          • knight_alva@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

            Who decides when a species becomes naturalized / stops being invasive? As an example, the European Starling has been living in North America since 1890 and are still considered invasive. They have natural predators. The ecosystem is adapting around them. Just let them have citizenship already!

            Another thing:
            Taxonomy. Just all taxonomy. If a shark and a trout are both fish then we must also be fish because both of those animals are closer relatives to us than they are to each other. Obviously the way we define a fish has to change. Why has nobody done this? There are a TON of things like this in taxonomy and that all make me absurdly angry.

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            Invasive is just a slur for things people don't like. Same thing for weed.

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            • N [email protected]

              I’m not even a fan of Genesis. I have no ire towards the band, though, and some of their songs I enjoy, Land of Confusion is a banger, and I don’t know enough of his solo work outside of the Tarzan soundtrack to really have any valid critiques of his musical style and approach. I just want to punch that son of a bitch right in the mouth for some reason. He just triggers a fight response in my dumb monkey brain.

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              Maybe he’s your real dad.

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              • misterneon@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                The world is cruel and ugly. There are plenty of justifiable things to be upset and distraught over. I don't want to hear about those. I want to know what bizarre out of left field takes you have that infuriates you.

                I'm still upset about Tenochtitlan falling and being buried. I'm a gringo, I shouldn't have an opinion about Lake Texcoco being drained centuries ago.

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                Vacuum cleaner noise

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                  In the context of the universe as a whole, what even is "useful"? Maybe its just here to shine bright for a few trillion years and that's all it needs to be. Art doesn't need to be useful.

                  If human history tells us anything its that we'd somehow suck the beauty out of it all in the name of profit.

                  I'm not really a nihilist or anything but it seems like almost anything we touch turns to shit. I'm all for colonizing the moon and Mars and making use of the asteroid belt but on bigger scales, maybe its better off to just sit back and enjoy the view?

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                  I tend towards a variation on utilitarianism, from that point of view energy in a finite universe that could be used to support intelligent life in some way, but isnt, is unethical, and while that might not really demand much action from us right now given that space development is a very, very long term project by nature and we're already working on developing the most basic forms of the requisite technology, it still seems a bit frustrating to lose that which we cannot reach. Its not just us either, statistically speaking it should be extremely unlikely for life and advanced intelligence to occur once, but only once, so I take it as a given that theres more out there somewhere, but evidently it cant be that common or else hasnt gotten much further than us, given all the stars we can see out there.

                  I dont really think everything we touch turns to shit, I just think we judge ourselves much more harshly than we judge "natural" things. I dont really care that much if the people that go off to the stars do so because of some desire to harvest them for some kind of profit or put up a space-mcdonalds at alpha centauri or whatever, as long as someone goes. Obviously I would prefer they build a nicer society there than just a rehash of what we have here right now, but in my view even the crappiest society is preferable to a dead rock or inanimate clump of gas, even if it is an aesthetically pleasing rock. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say, and I think we can make beautiful things, or failing that, and least find the beauty in what we do make, if we try.

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                    I want to bring reusable ones but everything is measured by weight and that fucks up the scale

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                    Yep. We are ruled by idiots.

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                      If ICE cars were banned for everything but racing/recreation I'd be very happy.

                      Racing series' do not need to make their race cars green. They need to make their logistics fleets green. Race cars need to be able to remain loud and dirty. The sights, sounds, and smells of racing combine to create the majesty that is racing.

                      I look forward to a future of efficient public transit, no new ICEs on the roads and V12s back in F1.

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                      Oddly, the wake-up call that made me realize I needed to step back from cars was at a racetrack. I was standing on pit lane with our race about to start, and was looking up & down pit road. There must have been 1000 gallons of gas all stored in 5 gallon jugs (100+ teams, each with 20-30 gallons, so probably closer to 2500 gallons in hindsight). And it made me realize we were all going to burn it all just for fun.

                      I do not regret my time racing at all, in fact I still encourage new folks to get out there & actually do it (check out ChampCar & 24 hours of Lemons!). I learned so much, had way too much fun, and made some simply irreplaceable memories. But I also feel it's an irresponsible use of a limited resource. Still haven't found a way to balance that equation in my head. For now, I've hung up the helmet.

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                      • misterneon@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                        The world is cruel and ugly. There are plenty of justifiable things to be upset and distraught over. I don't want to hear about those. I want to know what bizarre out of left field takes you have that infuriates you.

                        I'm still upset about Tenochtitlan falling and being buried. I'm a gringo, I shouldn't have an opinion about Lake Texcoco being drained centuries ago.

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                        This shouldn't be weird, but I'm consistently upset at how dumb the average idiot is.

                        It's scary how stupid most people are without even realizing it and I hate how I have to suffer for it every day.

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                          Loud lawnmowers. Ass hats who maintain the classic American yard. Every Saturday morning on cue, the whole neighborhood erupts into noise. It's so loud.

                          Everyone in my area has about a quarter acre of land, yet here come the zero turn riding mower guys, mowing their grass too low, every weekend, just to water it the next day.

                          They are loud, disruptive, and just remind me we are slowly killing the planet every day for vainity yards.

                          I have a reel mower from the 1950's I found and fixed up. I got a lot of compliments the first summer I used it, it has self shapening blades and works mostly well. Folks were shocked I was using it, one lady stopped and even gsve me a "you get it girl!", like what? It's a quarter acre people, and takes me 30-40 mins. Why do they need giant gas guzzling, louds stinky mowers? After a few years with the reel mower, I did get an electric line trimmer, .. I'm crazy, but sometimes I mow most of my very small lawn with it when I dont want to fix and use my reel mower. It's quiet, it doesnt smell, and I have control to skip over dirt/sparse patches. I can leave areas longer where I see native plants popping up. I feel like im working with the land, not just decimating it.

                          They ride these giant mowers up and down the street, they mow dirt just the same as they mow field. I literally get triggered everytime I hear one start up, so often, it's a running joke in the house. It's a quarter acre lots here, not baseball fields.

                          Perfect lawns, but then its just bittersweet growing wild on the edges taking over trees.

                          I also hate bittersweet. Like, really really hate bittersweet. It kills everything and takes over gardens. Invasive garbage that may seem like a cool plant to the unknowing eye, but it is invasive garbage everyone just looks past as it kills our native trees and plants, suffocating the life forms they parasite off from. I have to stay vigilant to keep it from my yard. It is persistent, it'll tear your house down if you let it.

                          I hate lawnmowers and bittersweet. These things make me feel distraught.

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                          I can tell you're not a homeowner.

                          What the fuck else are people supposed to do with their yard?

                          If you don't cut the grass, it grows and eventually you'll start getting brush. Not to mention lots of idiots have HOAs which mandate they cut the grass.

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                            I'm sick to fucking death of hearing about the quantum multiverse. It's a delusional fantasy, and even though I respect the hell out of Sean Carol, it's time for him to shut the fuck up about it and stop giving it air.

                            I'm tired of hearing about the quantum multiverse which is a fantasy, and I'm tired of hearing about quantum consciousness and all that other fucking horse shit.

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                            Why are you so confident in your understanding of it?

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                              It's Reese's Pieces, not Reesee's peesees.

                              You're a fucking idiot if you say Reesee's peesees. When have you ever used the term peesees elsewhere, you month breathing dunce?

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                              I was perplexed when I found out this was even a debate, but then I realized one of the participants was an idiot.

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                              • lime@feddit.nuL [email protected]

                                banning permanent lights aimed at the sky would allow millions more people to see stars at night with no downsides. but nobody seems to care.

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                                One of the many benefits of only living in major metropolitan areas.

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                                • F [email protected]

                                  I'm upset that there haven't been many Disney+ original movies this year. 2022 had a ton of them, they've really slowed down since the writer's strike

                                  I'm also upset that Disney takes so long to announce when recent theatrical movies will be coming to Disney+. Thunderbolts is coming this Wednesday but they didn't announce it til like a week ago and I still don't know when Elio is coming.

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                                  Can't believe people don't have shame in liking whatever disney shits out.

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                                    I can tell you're not a homeowner.

                                    What the fuck else are people supposed to do with their yard?

                                    If you don't cut the grass, it grows and eventually you'll start getting brush. Not to mention lots of idiots have HOAs which mandate they cut the grass.

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                                    Plant native species! Anything but lawn grass!! For the love of insects and ecological diversity.

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                                    • F [email protected]

                                      It's Reese's Pieces, not Reesee's peesees.

                                      You're a fucking idiot if you say Reesee's peesees. When have you ever used the term peesees elsewhere, you month breathing dunce?

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                                      Reesee's feces

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                                        Plant native species! Anything but lawn grass!! For the love of insects and ecological diversity.

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                                        Have you tried this?

                                        Where I live, native species is brush that will eventually cover my entire house.

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                                        • I [email protected]

                                          Why are you so confident in your understanding of it?

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                                          Pathetic troll

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