Basically declaring that they don't allow free speech.
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Yes, sadly, freedom of speech includes freedom of hate speech. The platform would have to rely on its users downvoting or ridiculing the offender rather than outright bans.
See Twitter to see what "free speech absolutism" gets you. The hateful stuff will quickly overrun and take over the platform, chasing decent people away.
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See Twitter to see what "free speech absolutism" gets you. The hateful stuff will quickly overrun and take over the platform, chasing decent people away.
Twitter isn't even remotely pro-free-speech; much like Reddit, they claim to be in order to defend the worst people on the platform, while routinely deleting or banning people for speech they disagree with
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Twitter isn't even remotely pro-free-speech; much like Reddit, they claim to be in order to defend the worst people on the platform, while routinely deleting or banning people for speech they disagree with
That's correct. But it starts by allowing hate speech. Can you give an example of a single platform that allows it that didn't become a toxic shithole?
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I have a strange opinion, but here goes: The Right to Free Speech (Im in the US here), should protect you from censorship. Doing what Reddit is doing should be considered a Rights violation and we should be able to sue them into the ground.
Well, you are certainly entitled to that opinion even though it's wrong, and I do think banning you for it is also wrong.
There's a big difference between having ideas and taking actions. Ideas cannot be allowed to become illegal. Even disgusting ones.
The correct response to unconscionable ideas is social, not institutional.
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Incorrect. I got banned yesterday for "Eat the Rich" and Luigi favoritism. I believe the post in question (you never know with a Reddit ban because they dont show you) was responding to someone's post that mentioned the French Revolution with a Guillotine gif and "Git-r-Done".
Yea, apparently I was plotting murder or something by doing that.
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I mean, advocating for eating people is in itself a crime, so maybe the bot thought you were trying to push for cannibalism?
The bot was probably right. That has been yelled a lot.
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See Twitter to see what "free speech absolutism" gets you. The hateful stuff will quickly overrun and take over the platform, chasing decent people away.
I understand what you are trying to say, but Twitter is far from free speech. Twitter is a mob/mind control device. It brings hatred to the forefront. The worst posts thrown right into people's faces, then they tailor the content to focus the hatred.
One only needs to type the words "Cis Gender" in Twitter to see the censorship, the hatred, and the target all working together.That's not free speech, it's brainwashing. Reddit is just as bad.
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Well, you are certainly entitled to that opinion even though it's wrong, and I do think banning you for it is also wrong.
There's a big difference between having ideas and taking actions. Ideas cannot be allowed to become illegal. Even disgusting ones.
The correct response to unconscionable ideas is social, not institutional.
That is the point I was making about Twitter, and it applies to Reddit as well. You have to stop that radicalization socially, they need their hands slapped to know that they are wrong.
Twitter and Reddit dont just let MAGA go crazy, they give them a safe space to do it in. They block us normal people from telling them they are being crazy. He'll, Reddit let's them throw people out if they don't have Conservative flair (like a checkmark).The institutions are preventing proper social responses to these hateful people.
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What was the actual reason they gave when they blocked your account. Because I had one of my accounts banned, but not for any logical reason, and they just gave me a made-up reason of I was being aggressive (I wasn't being aggressive I was just pointing out to someone that he was gatekeeping, which he was).
For contacts the guy was trying to suggest that the only people who should be allowed to be employed in the software development industry are people with a relevant university level qualification, which was obviously stupid because it would block pretty much all of the current tech billionaires from their own companies.
“Promoting violence”
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I understand what you are trying to say, but Twitter is far from free speech. Twitter is a mob/mind control device. It brings hatred to the forefront. The worst posts thrown right into people's faces, then they tailor the content to focus the hatred.
One only needs to type the words "Cis Gender" in Twitter to see the censorship, the hatred, and the target all working together.That's not free speech, it's brainwashing. Reddit is just as bad.
Yes, I know. That's what always happens if you allow hate speech - it takes over and suppresses dissent.
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