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Really?
They're almost universally Chromebooks and the Google suite for schools these days...
A couple years ago I interned for computer support at an elementary school in NYC. Most students had Chromebooks and Gsuite, K-2nd grade had iPads. Teachers had Lenovo laptops with Windows 10 and Office365.
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A couple years ago I interned for computer support at an elementary school in NYC. Most students had Chromebooks and Gsuite, K-2nd grade had iPads. Teachers had Lenovo laptops with Windows 10 and Office365.
...and until very recently, the discount for m365 was pretty neat, I gather.
Huh, that's interesting. I'm not aware of what my kids teachers have had to use for themselves (I think the highschool might be MS-based?), but the "client side" has always been in Gsuite for over a decade
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Ooh I would fucking LAY into her in the review if she did that, and cause a stink to the dean. That shit would've pissed me off so bad. I hate when people expect you to be telepathic like that.
To be honest she probably didn't even know that the comments were only visible to Adobe product readers, but that's still infuriating as hell
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*libre office
Yes. I know, it's more popular than open office but I've used open office for so long now I don't want to switch.
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OpenOffice
Dude that thing doesn't get a proper update since 2014, the most they do today is code style changes!Indeed the libreoffice team wrote them a letter in 2020 about this:
https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/10/12/open-letter-to-apache-openoffice/Works great for any and all word processing and spreadsheet that I need.
I don't do that much of it anyway so I don't really need anything more than open office.
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Best thing I ever saw was an Italian cooking class that sent recipes as an ODT, and then 20 minutes later as a DOCX as an afterthought for the Americans.
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Everyone knows the only acceptable formats are .pdf and .tex, everything else should be shunned out of society.
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Really?
They're almost universally Chromebooks and the Google suite for schools these days...
yeah but that's fairly recent.
when i was in school in the late 90s it was all microsoft all the time. we had courses specifically on Microsoft^TM^ Word^TM^. that sort of indoctrination isn't visible in the workplace until the people going through it are old enough to work.
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Everyone knows the only acceptable formats are .pdf and .tex, everything else should be shunned out of society.
.tex is a source format, not a presentation format, and as such should not be valid in a submission field.
they should take .ps though.
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yeah but that's fairly recent.
when i was in school in the late 90s it was all microsoft all the time. we had courses specifically on Microsoft^TM^ Word^TM^. that sort of indoctrination isn't visible in the workplace until the people going through it are old enough to work.
To be fair, that's about all there was... Corels (?) WordPerfect was ass, for sure. Office 97 was freaking amazing.
Although, I was a product of the time as well.
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To be fair, that's about all there was... Corels (?) WordPerfect was ass, for sure. Office 97 was freaking amazing.
Although, I was a product of the time as well.
sure, but computers are so much more than office suites.
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sure, but computers are so much more than office suites.
I don't believe you
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I don't believe you
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our lab computers ran novell netware, which definitely told me that microsoft wasn't all there was. but yeah, it definitely conditioned an entire generation into only understanding windows.
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yeah but that's fairly recent.
when i was in school in the late 90s it was all microsoft all the time. we had courses specifically on Microsoft^TM^ Word^TM^. that sort of indoctrination isn't visible in the workplace until the people going through it are old enough to work.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I graduated in 2011, and same. My high school had a pretty janky mix of various Dell Inspiron towers, running mostly Windows XP but with a handful of Windows 2000 and ME machines that for some reason (prolly hardware too old) escaped their upgrades. We went through impressively comprehensive MS Office training and even Computer Tech classes (essentially an intro to an intro to computer science where we learned data concepts and built a PC).
A few years later, 90% of those machines had been scrapped, the mandatory courses were all gone and the kids all had cheap crappy Chromebooks. Now any tech courses are just electives and the students are expected to magically know how to use the software they're required to use. (Because "they're young, of course they know it!" Nevermind that they've only used iPads since birth).
Consequently, any class involving a computer, even if it's just word processing for English essays and such, has the teacher taking time out of instruction to show the students how to use the stuff. Otherwise there are problems. It's a sorry state of affairs and a lot more kids are getting left behind when it comes to tech. Google might be the worst thing happening to education now if it weren't for the GOP.
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Can't OpenOffice export to .docx?
please do not use openoffice in 2025
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I graduated in 2011, and same. My high school had a pretty janky mix of various Dell Inspiron towers, running mostly Windows XP but with a handful of Windows 2000 and ME machines that for some reason (prolly hardware too old) escaped their upgrades. We went through impressively comprehensive MS Office training and even Computer Tech classes (essentially an intro to an intro to computer science where we learned data concepts and built a PC).
A few years later, 90% of those machines had been scrapped, the mandatory courses were all gone and the kids all had cheap crappy Chromebooks. Now any tech courses are just electives and the students are expected to magically know how to use the software they're required to use. (Because "they're young, of course they know it!" Nevermind that they've only used iPads since birth).
Consequently, any class involving a computer, even if it's just word processing for English essays and such, has the teacher taking time out of instruction to show the students how to use the stuff. Otherwise there are problems. It's a sorry state of affairs and a lot more kids are getting left behind when it comes to tech. Google might be the worst thing happening to education now if it weren't for the GOP.
i was a ta in uni in 2011-2015 and while ipad babies weren't a thing yet we did definitely have to explain to some people what files were. as far as i understand from my contacts at the university it it's way worse now.
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Best thing I ever saw was an Italian cooking class that sent recipes as an ODT, and then 20 minutes later as a DOCX as an afterthought for the Americans.
Why not pdf?
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Yes. I know, it's more popular than open office but I've used open office for so long now I don't want to switch.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Do you my guy but running an office suite that hasn't been patched in 11 years is a major security risk. (This is assuming you aren't exclusively creating and saving documents, but are also opening documents you recieve or download).
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our lab computers ran novell netware, which definitely told me that microsoft wasn't all there was. but yeah, it definitely conditioned an entire generation into only understanding windows.
To be fair, NetWare again was the product - microsoft didn't have anything worthy of respect until much later (and I can't remember if AD was any good in the early 2000s!)
NT4s Lanmanager was rubbish - NetWare was light years ahead as a directory service. I'd argue the institutions simply had the right tools for the job.
You are right about the hostile defaults / corpos getting into education to capture a generation, of course (and institutions want to be relevant to the market rather than to the principles or foundations, which is a shame)
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please do not use openoffice in 2025
Honestly I keep mixing up Openoffice and Libreoffice.
