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  • lime@feddit.nuL [email protected]

    .tex is a source format, not a presentation format, and as such should not be valid in a submission field.

    they should take .ps though.

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    Dvi file then.

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      To be fair, that's about all there was... Corels (?) WordPerfect was ass, for sure. Office 97 was freaking amazing.

      Although, I was a product of the time as well.

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      I used Applix on Unix / Linux and it was fine.

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        Actually now that you mention it I don't think I downloaded an ODT documenting forever in a day I mean probably decades.

        But you are right of course there is a security risk but fron what I understand it is being patched just not actively updated?

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        downloaded an ODT documenting

        Doesn't really matter what document format it is, I wouldn't dare using OO anymore. Maybe they still patch critical CVEs, and maybe no one even attempts exploits because it's basically just in maintenance mode, but you never know...

        Change isn't fun, but I don't think that UI-wise Libreoffice is such a big leap?

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          Okay, I just want to say I blame schools for Microsoft's monopoly on personal computing. School sysadmins are always dazzled by the shiny looking gifts that Microsoft gives them, ensuring the next generation of Microsoft useds is ready.

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          Yes I really liked the "microsoft excel and spreadsheets" class everyone had to take for 1-2 whole years. The tools designed for us to learn basics within weeks and discover features naturally over time.

          I mean imagine how many negative side effects on education there would be if we just spent one or two weeks learning KStars or Geogebra or Kalzium.

          Don't worry tho cause with microsoft backing openai I am sure every student will be given a set of chatgpt premium accounts to "help" them in their learning. Universities are already doing it en masse.

          You lose some you lose some.

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          • I [email protected]

            I once failed a uni assignment, because the teachers assistant wrote remarks on a pdf in a way that's only viewable in adobe's products.

            She failed us because "we ignored her remarks". Had no idea they were there.

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            Tbh it's probably less of an Adobe problem and more due to the absolute mess that is PDF annotations.

            Despite being a defined open standard, most free PDF viewers either don't support them (zathura etc), or fuck them up (GNOME evince). Even some of the viewers that do support them like Okular need extra configuration.

            Unironically Firefox as a PDF viewer actually has the best support for PDF annotations.

            The state of PDF Readers on Linux - Discussion - It's FOSS Community - https://itsfoss.community/t/the-state-of-pdf-readers-on-linux/12798

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              downloaded an ODT documenting

              Doesn't really matter what document format it is, I wouldn't dare using OO anymore. Maybe they still patch critical CVEs, and maybe no one even attempts exploits because it's basically just in maintenance mode, but you never know...

              Change isn't fun, but I don't think that UI-wise Libreoffice is such a big leap?

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              It is not a leap at all. Was seamless for me.

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              • F [email protected]

                Really?

                They're almost universally Chromebooks and the Google suite for schools these days...

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                K-12 use Google, University use Microsoft

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                • D [email protected]

                  Any format can really contain malware

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                  good ol virus.txt

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                  • F [email protected]

                    To be honest she probably didn't even know that the comments were only visible to Adobe product readers, but that's still infuriating as hell

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                    All pdfs must be flattened! You just never know what people will use so flatten.

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                    • J [email protected]

                      For anyone who is not aware:
                      https://stallmansupport.org/

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                      #86

                      To our collective social woe, disinformation succeeds because so many people care deeply about injustice but do not take the time to study the facts before passing along or acting on disinformation.

                      Something many of us should learn from, even more appropriate on lemmy.

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                      • a_chilean_cyborg@feddit.clA [email protected]

                        Everyone knows the only acceptable formats are .pdf and .tex, everything else should be shunned out of society.

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                        .tex

                        Ha, lamers. A true wizard writes their assignments in roff.

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                          Yes I really liked the "microsoft excel and spreadsheets" class everyone had to take for 1-2 whole years. The tools designed for us to learn basics within weeks and discover features naturally over time.

                          I mean imagine how many negative side effects on education there would be if we just spent one or two weeks learning KStars or Geogebra or Kalzium.

                          Don't worry tho cause with microsoft backing openai I am sure every student will be given a set of chatgpt premium accounts to "help" them in their learning. Universities are already doing it en masse.

                          You lose some you lose some.

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                          Schools could have used that time they were "teaching" the Office suite to give an introduction to unix, programming, and the basics of how the internet functions. I had to read and analyze Beowulf, Shakespeare, Chaucer, and Homer and memorize the names and formulas of 33 polyatomic ions. Computing education to the same depth should have been and should be required as it was required for the other subjects.

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                          • loweffortname@lemmy.blahaj.zoneL [email protected]

                            I kinda like using Doctorow for this:

                            • Similar facial expression
                            • Works with the EFF
                            • Cool shades
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                            • is an all-around cool, intelligent person and unquestionably punk
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                            • a_chilean_cyborg@feddit.clA [email protected]

                              Everyone knows the only acceptable formats are .pdf and .tex, everything else should be shunned out of society.

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                              I wonder how people actually work with LaTeX.

                              Do you actually write all the headers and stuff manually through a TeX editor, or do you use tools that do it for you?

                              Because the former sounds incredibly tedious.

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                                I wonder how people actually work with LaTeX.

                                Do you actually write all the headers and stuff manually through a TeX editor, or do you use tools that do it for you?

                                Because the former sounds incredibly tedious.

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                                The former, it becomes easy and "natural" fast, as you memorize the stuff, eventually you become so used to being able to specify how the document should be specifically that using WYSIWYG stuff like word is awful, you start to fight with the document editor...

                                But there is stuff like overleaf if you want something less direct, it is still LaTeX but it has tools and Whatnots to do it easier.

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                                  Why not pdf?

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                                  Because the chef didn't know how to do that? I dunno.

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                                    I wonder how people actually work with LaTeX.

                                    Do you actually write all the headers and stuff manually through a TeX editor, or do you use tools that do it for you?

                                    Because the former sounds incredibly tedious.

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                                    I do both, but usually I use markdown to write the texts because it features basic formatting like headers and bold text, but it's faster and easier to write. Then I use pandoc to convert it into .tex and do the final editing and adjusting directly in Latex.

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                                      I wonder how people actually work with LaTeX.

                                      Do you actually write all the headers and stuff manually through a TeX editor, or do you use tools that do it for you?

                                      Because the former sounds incredibly tedious.

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                                      I used LyX when I authored some papers

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                                        I used LyX when I authored some papers

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                                        Will take a look!

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                                        • I [email protected]

                                          I do both, but usually I use markdown to write the texts because it features basic formatting like headers and bold text, but it's faster and easier to write. Then I use pandoc to convert it into .tex and do the final editing and adjusting directly in Latex.

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                                          I believe Zettlr editor uses pandoc to convert MD to LaTeX.

                                          Indeed needs some manual tinkering, as long as I remember, at least since MD is not so feature-rich 😄

                                          But thanks for the recommendation!

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