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Everyone knows the only acceptable formats are .pdf and .tex, everything else should be shunned out of society.
I wonder how people actually work with LaTeX.
Do you actually write all the headers and stuff manually through a TeX editor, or do you use tools that do it for you?
Because the former sounds incredibly tedious.
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I wonder how people actually work with LaTeX.
Do you actually write all the headers and stuff manually through a TeX editor, or do you use tools that do it for you?
Because the former sounds incredibly tedious.
The former, it becomes easy and "natural" fast, as you memorize the stuff, eventually you become so used to being able to specify how the document should be specifically that using WYSIWYG stuff like word is awful, you start to fight with the document editor...
But there is stuff like overleaf if you want something less direct, it is still LaTeX but it has tools and Whatnots to do it easier.
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Why not pdf?
Because the chef didn't know how to do that? I dunno.
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I wonder how people actually work with LaTeX.
Do you actually write all the headers and stuff manually through a TeX editor, or do you use tools that do it for you?
Because the former sounds incredibly tedious.
I do both, but usually I use markdown to write the texts because it features basic formatting like headers and bold text, but it's faster and easier to write. Then I use pandoc to convert it into .tex and do the final editing and adjusting directly in Latex.
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I wonder how people actually work with LaTeX.
Do you actually write all the headers and stuff manually through a TeX editor, or do you use tools that do it for you?
Because the former sounds incredibly tedious.
I used LyX when I authored some papers
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I used LyX when I authored some papers
Will take a look!
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I do both, but usually I use markdown to write the texts because it features basic formatting like headers and bold text, but it's faster and easier to write. Then I use pandoc to convert it into .tex and do the final editing and adjusting directly in Latex.
I believe Zettlr editor uses pandoc to convert MD to LaTeX.
Indeed needs some manual tinkering, as long as I remember, at least since MD is not so feature-rich
But thanks for the recommendation!
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i'm not sending anything that can be edited. last time i did that as a consultant they stripped our company logo out of the documents.
Wait until you find out that absolutely anything can be edited
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Wait until you find out that absolutely anything can be edited
not by joe doofus
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Mine accepted both. The professor read it from a web app anyway.
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Do you remember when radicals were trying to cancel RMS because of him merely defending some accused person.
The whole feud was very sad to unfold.
Ok, he is not perfect, but we need him, now more than ever. Even if only as a symbol.
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Schools could have used that time they were "teaching" the Office suite to give an introduction to unix, programming, and the basics of how the internet functions. I had to read and analyze Beowulf, Shakespeare, Chaucer, and Homer and memorize the names and formulas of 33 polyatomic ions. Computing education to the same depth should have been and should be required as it was required for the other subjects.
Knowledge is power.
We understand a very small subset of what we use every day, and that can only be catastrophic.
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Everyone knows the only acceptable formats are .pdf and .tex, everything else should be shunned out of society.
I used typst for my thesis and a couple of assignments and can absolutely recommend it. Easier syntax and ultra fast compilation.
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I genuinely think they're just incompetent lol
You should see the windows xp source code
be careful with tainting yourself with proprietary crap though
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Haven't used word in over 20 years and have no intention of ever using it again.
OpenOffice baby!
btw libreoffice is just a continuation of openoffice development
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Mine accepted rtf.
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I wonder how people actually work with LaTeX.
Do you actually write all the headers and stuff manually through a TeX editor, or do you use tools that do it for you?
Because the former sounds incredibly tedious.
Do you actually write all the headers and stuff
I've used Latex as my go-to tool for writing anything that needs formatting for years, and I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean?
I start off my document with a
documentclassstatement, which is one line..? And then I will sometimesusepackagea couple things for further document-wide formatting, but we're still talking about a small handful of lines (like 5-10 at most).The preamble can grow quite large for big documents with a lot of specific formatting, but I have some boilerplate preambles with the most common packages lying around that I can copy-paste in. Usually however, the preamble grows as you're writing the document and you add things dynamically as you need them.
I would love to give you a better answer to your question, since my impression is that pretty much no one that swaps to Latex ever looks back, and I would love to help you learn. Feel free to expand on what you mean by "all the headers and stuff" and I'll try to give a better answer
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Everyone knows the only acceptable formats are .pdf and .tex, everything else should be shunned out of society.
wrote last edited by [email protected]- If it's meant to be pretty, portable, and read-only: pdf
- If it's text with no formatting: txt
- If it's formatted and read-write: md
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i was a ta in uni in 2011-2015 and while ipad babies weren't a thing yet we did definitely have to explain to some people what files were. as far as i understand from my contacts at the university it it's way worse now.
Ohhh, I can sign off on this.
The amount of 20 year old university students that do not understand how to save a file to a specific location on their computer and then retrieve that file later has skyrocketed the last five years.
This is very obviously a consequence of them only ever having worked through tablet- or phone-type interfaces, where the file system is completely hidden to the user. I teach these people to program, and their eyes gloss over when I ask them where they put the data file they need to parse for the assignment. Once they understand the question they'll typically open the file explorer, click on "recent files", and ask me why their python script won't open it, when the files are right there next to each other in "recent files".
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Do you actually write all the headers and stuff
I've used Latex as my go-to tool for writing anything that needs formatting for years, and I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean?
I start off my document with a
documentclassstatement, which is one line..? And then I will sometimesusepackagea couple things for further document-wide formatting, but we're still talking about a small handful of lines (like 5-10 at most).The preamble can grow quite large for big documents with a lot of specific formatting, but I have some boilerplate preambles with the most common packages lying around that I can copy-paste in. Usually however, the preamble grows as you're writing the document and you add things dynamically as you need them.
I would love to give you a better answer to your question, since my impression is that pretty much no one that swaps to Latex ever looks back, and I would love to help you learn. Feel free to expand on what you mean by "all the headers and stuff" and I'll try to give a better answer
Oh, this is based on my first impression I had a while back when I noped out of it
This is less of a detailed problem description and more like a scream over perceived complexity of something that should be so simple, especially for someone who's very far from programming or advanced computing overall.
Outside of documentclass, there are all the paragraph, section, title, there are all the packages introducing all sorts of things (like, why there's a need for external PACKAGES inside a TEXT DOCUMENT?! Why are they required to do the very basics that are somehow not covered by the base kit?!) etc.
Tables are straight up scary to write in LaTeX, you insert all the parameters and then write it out like some sort of matrix but without any decent sctructure; and plotting - I didn't even try to comprehend it.
Overall, it feels like some unnecessarily nerdy way to edit docs. Probably powerful, but same sort of powerful as editing configs to customize things. Please, make it any sort of user-friendly!
