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Robert Francis Prevost becomes Pope Leo XIV as cardinals elect first US pontiff

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    I'm rather surprised no one has posted pope news yet. So here you go. His past writings suggest a liberal bent, but popes are wont to surprise.

    Robert Francis Prevost has become the first clergyman from the United States to lead the Roman Catholic church, ending the Vatican’s longstanding opposition to the idea of a US pontiff.

    The 69-year-old from Chicago has taken the papal name Pope Leo XIV, a senior cardinal announced from the central balcony of St Peter’s Basilica on Thursday evening.

    The announcement, which followed white smoke billowing from the chimney above the Sistine Chapel, prompted raucous celebration and delight among the 50,000 pilgrims and tourists in St Peter’s Square.

    I'll respectfully avoid the reference to guys from Chicago in Star Trek: Picard.

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      I'm rather surprised no one has posted pope news yet. So here you go. His past writings suggest a liberal bent, but popes are wont to surprise.

      Robert Francis Prevost has become the first clergyman from the United States to lead the Roman Catholic church, ending the Vatican’s longstanding opposition to the idea of a US pontiff.

      The 69-year-old from Chicago has taken the papal name Pope Leo XIV, a senior cardinal announced from the central balcony of St Peter’s Basilica on Thursday evening.

      The announcement, which followed white smoke billowing from the chimney above the Sistine Chapel, prompted raucous celebration and delight among the 50,000 pilgrims and tourists in St Peter’s Square.

      I'll respectfully avoid the reference to guys from Chicago in Star Trek: Picard.

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      Let me preface this by saying that he is the pope of the Roman Catholic Church, an institution with a lot of rot that protected pedophiles for decades and plays hardball with investigations in many countries.

      That being said I saw some of his social media posts and he is definitely very outspoken about Trump/Vance, which signals to me that we could’ve probably done a lot worse. Especially among US papal candidates.

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        Let me preface this by saying that he is the pope of the Roman Catholic Church, an institution with a lot of rot that protected pedophiles for decades and plays hardball with investigations in many countries.

        That being said I saw some of his social media posts and he is definitely very outspoken about Trump/Vance, which signals to me that we could’ve probably done a lot worse. Especially among US papal candidates.

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        Far be it for me to claim any knowledge about the inner workings of the Vatican. This said, far be it for me to cast aspersions, as popes can veer wildly off expectations.

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          Let me preface this by saying that he is the pope of the Roman Catholic Church, an institution with a lot of rot that protected pedophiles for decades and plays hardball with investigations in many countries.

          That being said I saw some of his social media posts and he is definitely very outspoken about Trump/Vance, which signals to me that we could’ve probably done a lot worse. Especially among US papal candidates.

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          theoretically the whole curia should obey the pope, but in reality it is a very large appartus that is very hard to steer, I doubt we'll see meaningful changes.
          I remember the first years of Francis reign, there was a lot of shift and scandals but also a lot of pushback. Eventually things became quieter and back to 'business as usual'. The same happened with Benedict, it was clear he quit due to his inability to steer the institution.

          I think that is the reason Francis made so many cardinals.

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            Far be it for me to claim any knowledge about the inner workings of the Vatican. This said, far be it for me to cast aspersions, as popes can veer wildly off expectations.

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            Just wait til he collaberates with the fraud and his gang of incompetants over that one guy they both knew well enough and get back to adjusting the laws to accept pedophilia. Little boys for him and little girls for the fat guy that simpsons knew and broadcast ahead of time.

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              Just wait til he collaberates with the fraud and his gang of incompetants over that one guy they both knew well enough and get back to adjusting the laws to accept pedophilia. Little boys for him and little girls for the fat guy that simpsons knew and broadcast ahead of time.

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              Be more constructive on Beehaw. Yes, the Catholic church has turned a blind eye in the past, but you're heading off into a weird excursion.

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                Be more constructive on Beehaw. Yes, the Catholic church has turned a blind eye in the past, but you're heading off into a weird excursion.

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                They haven't been blind. They're doing it on purpose towards something else. The fact that you can't see it doesn't mean I know how to help you or that you even intend such.

                I construct awareness. Your playing as if one can only speak about the least horror possible to be considered the approriate perspective of such a, my turn with the truth, biggest coop narcissism.

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                  theoretically the whole curia should obey the pope, but in reality it is a very large appartus that is very hard to steer, I doubt we'll see meaningful changes.
                  I remember the first years of Francis reign, there was a lot of shift and scandals but also a lot of pushback. Eventually things became quieter and back to 'business as usual'. The same happened with Benedict, it was clear he quit due to his inability to steer the institution.

                  I think that is the reason Francis made so many cardinals.

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                  Notice I didn’t say I had any ambitions of some major changes or overhauls. We honestly know very little about this guy at this stage anyway, so any claims like that would be silly on several levels. But if we had gotten a complete shit head regressive bigot you can bet they’d more easily be able to steer into it

                  The US Catholic Church is in turmoil, more than many realize. When I heard he was an American* I actually was very nervous. Last year in archbishop from Boston was excommunicated, not removed from his post excommunicated, for schism. Wasn’t accepting the pope’s legitimacy. It’s getting weird here. Trumpism is popular and is diametrically opposed to the (in the US sadly languishing) social justice mission of the Catholic Church.

                  *sort of

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                    theoretically the whole curia should obey the pope, but in reality it is a very large appartus that is very hard to steer, I doubt we'll see meaningful changes.
                    I remember the first years of Francis reign, there was a lot of shift and scandals but also a lot of pushback. Eventually things became quieter and back to 'business as usual'. The same happened with Benedict, it was clear he quit due to his inability to steer the institution.

                    I think that is the reason Francis made so many cardinals.

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                    I think that is the reason Francis made so many cardinals.

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