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      Post structuralists in shambles

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        "Misogyny is a skill issue".

        Women-hating PUAs/incels explained succinctly! But when the average man in your community has that 'skill issue', it becomes a cultural problem.

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          I read a book a while back that was called a "guide to mating" or something that was actually pretty decent and included some very objectively anthropological / sociological explanations of why if you're ugly you better at least be a good person. "Well why should I have you be nice if the hot guys don't?" Look dude do you wanna fuck or not? Weird that some guys will only hear that from another man but...

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            I read a book a while back that was called a "guide to mating" or something that was actually pretty decent and included some very objectively anthropological / sociological explanations of why if you're ugly you better at least be a good person. "Well why should I have you be nice if the hot guys don't?" Look dude do you wanna fuck or not? Weird that some guys will only hear that from another man but...

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            If someone needs to be promised sex to be a good person, it's likely they'll simply never be a good person.

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              Opinion. Not a "gamer fact". Screen shot this comment and repost it somewhere else to add to the social-mediacepion. Is it possible the 'higher-skilled", again an opinion, players have a different common factor? Like maybe age. Maybe people who suck at games just talk more shit because they suck. Sure thing with the "gamer fact"

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                And here I am reminiscing about THIS being our greatest problem in society.

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                  And here I am reminiscing about THIS being our greatest problem in society.

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                  Not the greatest perhaps, but a problem still.

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                    Opinion. Not a "gamer fact". Screen shot this comment and repost it somewhere else to add to the social-mediacepion. Is it possible the 'higher-skilled", again an opinion, players have a different common factor? Like maybe age. Maybe people who suck at games just talk more shit because they suck. Sure thing with the "gamer fact"

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                    The observations are a fact, the 2nd part is a possible explanation that you could call an opinion.

                    Is it possible the 'higher-skilled", again an opinion, players have a different common factor? Like maybe age.

                    Ok, but that doesn't change it

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                      Opinion. Not a "gamer fact". Screen shot this comment and repost it somewhere else to add to the social-mediacepion. Is it possible the 'higher-skilled", again an opinion, players have a different common factor? Like maybe age. Maybe people who suck at games just talk more shit because they suck. Sure thing with the "gamer fact"

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                      It's a study; I imagine they controlled for age and other factors if the article states the study "found", not "suggested" or similar looser term. It's not an opinion, but a result of a scientific process. Your dislike for term "gamer fact", even if it's a bit cringe, doesn't change that.

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                        I used to hate when a woman would join our party, because suddenly all the men would be trying to knock eachother down and act up to impress her, and whatever happy little unity we had would crumble quickly.

                        No fault of the woman's, she just wants to play the game like the rest of us, but as soon as I hear a girls voice I groan inside and "oh here we fucking go"

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                          Opinion. Not a "gamer fact". Screen shot this comment and repost it somewhere else to add to the social-mediacepion. Is it possible the 'higher-skilled", again an opinion, players have a different common factor? Like maybe age. Maybe people who suck at games just talk more shit because they suck. Sure thing with the "gamer fact"

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                          This seems to be the study: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4503401/

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                            It's a study; I imagine they controlled for age and other factors if the article states the study "found", not "suggested" or similar looser term. It's not an opinion, but a result of a scientific process. Your dislike for term "gamer fact", even if it's a bit cringe, doesn't change that.

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                            imagine they controlled

                            I've read the study. They didn't. N=163, all anonymous. In the study they played Halo 3, recorded voice over and measured the reactions (if any), and then correlated the few reactions they got with skill level.

                            Nothing is known about participants. The gamers gender was determined based on institute of my ass, out of 163 games there were no responses in almost half, and in the Introduction they admit what they'll manipulate their result to prove thesis.

                            Oh, and the data collected contains also female negative responses, they were removed from further processing because women good men bad.

                            Interestingly the female-negative raw data (examples picked by study authors in appendix 2)

                            “Yeah, stop stealing my kills, you little piece of shit.”

                            “Shut up, you removed. She’s a removed though.”

                            “Should’ve made me a sandwich, removed.

                            Vs male-negative:

                            “Freaking removed.”

                            “I liked your lag trick, jackass.”

                            “You suck dick.”

                            Could be my bias, but male-negative from data set sounds significantly less sexists than female-negative. Female negative more often is aggression related to gender, male negative is less personal.

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                              Who knew it is all about asserting dominance. There is a study which showed monkeys with small penises howl the loudest. Not too dissimilar from humans who loves to overcompensate.

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                                I used to hate when a woman would join our party, because suddenly all the men would be trying to knock eachother down and act up to impress her, and whatever happy little unity we had would crumble quickly.

                                No fault of the woman's, she just wants to play the game like the rest of us, but as soon as I hear a girls voice I groan inside and "oh here we fucking go"

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                                When I'm in a male dominated space and a woman joins, I feel myself over-compensating in trying to be welcoming to the woman. I want to be the "good guy". I sort of feel like I should make that effort. But also I'd rather just get on with it and not have to think about it.

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                                  "Misogyny is a skill issue".

                                  Women-hating PUAs/incels explained succinctly! But when the average man in your community has that 'skill issue', it becomes a cultural problem.

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                                  so the solution to misogyny is to git gud?

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                                    "Misogyny is a skill issue?".

                                    👨‍🚀 🔫👨‍🚀 "Always has been."

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                                      The funny thing is, that's also why we have separate male-female sports categories in all of sports. Back then it was not only easier for women to compete against men due to less advanced nutrition and sports science, but also men placing behind women were also furious, and men regularly got beaten in chess, etc.

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                                        When I'm in a male dominated space and a woman joins, I feel myself over-compensating in trying to be welcoming to the woman. I want to be the "good guy". I sort of feel like I should make that effort. But also I'd rather just get on with it and not have to think about it.

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                                        Yup, same boat. I want to make sure they feel welcomed to the group but I don't want to make them feel like an "other"

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                                          Who knew it is all about asserting dominance. There is a study which showed monkeys with small penises howl the loudest. Not too dissimilar from humans who loves to overcompensate.

                                          edit: wording

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                                          Do they also get to be president? Or is that purely a human problem?

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