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Tesla sales crash continues in Europe, with Germany down 70%

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  • B [email protected]

    This is what makes Musk's B-line towards Nazi stardom so strange to me. Like, did he think Nazis were suddenly going to start buying electric cars? They literally put nuts on their trucks right next to their bumper stickers using homosexual slurs to describe electric vehicles, all while "rolling coal" in front of every Tesla they see on the road.

    These are the people you want to market to?
    And at the expense of your existing market?

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    Musk isn't doing all of this to sell more Teslas

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      Lol definitely won't, they're super anti-EV after all. I mean, they even want to get rid of all wind power plants. xD

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      This is why I wouldn't put it past them to try to hide the real sales numbers. Wouldn't surprise me if they're down 90+ percent and the company is effectively dead already. The board of directors are Elon's creatures and their personal wealth will depend on keeping the facade (and stock price) up so they aren't about to cry foul.

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      • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zipT [email protected]

        As a publicly traded US company, can't the board of directors vote Elon out because of tanking sales? Seems like that's the only way for the company to survive at this point.

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        Cause everyone at Tesla is a spineless grifter too.

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        • B [email protected]

          This is what makes Musk's B-line towards Nazi stardom so strange to me. Like, did he think Nazis were suddenly going to start buying electric cars? They literally put nuts on their trucks right next to their bumper stickers using homosexual slurs to describe electric vehicles, all while "rolling coal" in front of every Tesla they see on the road.

          These are the people you want to market to?
          And at the expense of your existing market?

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          He's a fraud that knows his time is up and the only way out is through manipulating politics. That's basically the playbook of every grifter these days.

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            Musk isn't doing all of this to sell more Teslas

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            I keep wondering how much of his behaviour has to do with his estranged kids telling him he's a dick as well as his Ketamine abuse.

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            • myopinion@lemm.eeM [email protected]

              Let’s get it to 90%. We can do it.

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              70% is just rookie numbers

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              • F [email protected]

                Is there a Canadian version of paypal that works the same way? I was searching but couldn't find one and ever since AI came around my business shrank to almost nothing. Also, other than having an old nearly defunct facebook account, what $ would I be unwittingly giving to Zuckerberg? Serious and naïve question.

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                Why old Facebook accounts still matter:

                -Your past likes, groups, comments, and interactions are stored and can still be used for ad profiling or sold as part of larger datasets.

                -If you once liked a brand or a political page, that interest could still be factored into long-term data models.

                -If you have active friends, their interactions with your old profile (e.g. tagging you in old posts, mentioning you) can still keep your account relevant to Meta’s algorithms.

                -Your friends may have synced their contacts with Facebook, meaning your email or phone number could still be in Meta’s database.

                -If you’ve ever used “Log in with Facebook” for third-party apps, Meta can see when and where you log in.

                -Even if you don’t actively sign in, Facebook cookies might still track you across other websites (depending on your browser settings).

                -Advertisers may have access to archived data that gets combined with current trends.

                -Your profile might be included in anonymized datasets used for AI training or market analysis.

                That made me wonder, in regard to your question, how much meta really makes out of Facebook accounts like yours.

                Out of curiosity I asked Mistral how much an inactive Facebook account might generate daily. It estimated $0.005 but noted it could be even lower. Let’s take a careful guess at $0.001.

                Ridiculously low, irrelevant, right?

                Well, there are 3 billion Facebook users. Let‘s assume Facebook earns $0.001 for each account, each day.

                This would be 3 billion times $0.001 which equals $3,000,000. Daily!

                Links:

                -The [Electronic Frontier Foundation's analysis](https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/01/facebook-tracking-you-even-if-you-never-had-account-heres-how) of Facebook's tracking technologies

                -[Privacy International's report](https://privacyinternational.org/long-read/3757/how-facebook-tracks-you-android-even-if-you-dont-have-facebook-app) on how Facebook tracks users across devices

                -The [Tracking Exposed project](https://tracking.exposed/facebook/) which documents Facebook's data collection methods

                -[ProPublica's series on Facebook's data practices](https://www.propublica.org/series/machine-bias)

                -The Washington Post's [investigation into Facebook's privacy controls](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/27/facebook-tracking-you/)

                -Wired's coverage of [how Facebook continues tracking after account deactivation](https://www.wired.com/story/facebook-data-tracking-deactivated-account/)

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                • G [email protected]

                  The only creatures that should buy a Tesla are from the fucking AfD.

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                  And those from the fucking UK apparently.

                  Very similar though - just waiting for them to elect farage to gut UK public services.

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                  • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zipT [email protected]

                    As a publicly traded US company, can't the board of directors vote Elon out because of tanking sales? Seems like that's the only way for the company to survive at this point.

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                    In a normal company they could, but the board are all loyal to him, not the company. Recently they insisted in giving him a 50 BILLION bonus, yes, with B. No chance they will intervene. And putting a puppet CEO like at Twitter won't have a strong effect either.

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                      The only creatures that should buy a Tesla are from the fucking AfD.

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                      I live in one of the Eastern countries and surprisingly most tesla owners I see on the street are from Ukraine. We don't even have developed infrastructure to use that car.

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                        In shorttime growth in a billion company..this is poisioness for tesla..elon all te blame...reminder of history is bad this company must be wiped out

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                          In a normal company they could, but the board are all loyal to him, not the company. Recently they insisted in giving him a 50 BILLION bonus, yes, with B. No chance they will intervene. And putting a puppet CEO like at Twitter won't have a strong effect either.

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                          Dont know is a normal company...normal company growth big in generations like toyota honda volkwagen bmw..one life time there is a big bubble...also want to act like apple...propiatary stuf.. I dont mind tesla for demise

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                          • T [email protected]

                            What? A Model 3 starts at 42k (without the tax credit) or 299/mo for a lease. That’s below average for new cars in America, or significantly below average if you qualify for the tax credit. KBB says the average for a new car in December 2024 was nearly 50k.

                            And sure, not everyone can afford a new car, but very few Tesla buyers are “that kind of income” wealthy.

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                            Even the most expensive Tesla is like the entry price for real sportscars. That dude is high

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                              he doesn’t, the american people getting ass fucked in broad daylight

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                              What's worse is that they seem to be liking it. Their entire country had collectively goatse'd themselves and exclaimed "INSERT COINS HERE".

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                                Deliver is not the same as sales. They are also launching a new model this summer so people could just be waiting. I know it’s a great news story, Europe bands together against Musk to show dissatisfaction with American politics, but it may not be true. If someone could find Tesla reports that delivers are far lower than expected I will change my mind.

                                I wanted to find their predictions for production in Q1 2025 to see if they planned for less deliveries before all this Musk hit the news cycle. The closed I got as 2024 Q2 production numbers. https://ir.tesla.com/press-release/tesla-vehicle-production-deliveries-and-date-financial-results-webcast-second-quarter-2024

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                                I mean... why wouldn't all that is happening not have a effect on sales? Musk is the face of Tesla and Musks image has totally gone downhill for lots of people. He's gone from "techbro genius" to "fascist" in a few months (!) in the public image and there is really not reason to doubt, that this won't have an effect on sales.

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                                  I keep wondering how much of his behaviour has to do with his estranged kids telling him he's a dick as well as his Ketamine abuse.

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                                  Well, he stated that he wants to eradicate the woke mind virus, but I think that's all smokescreen.

                                  IMHO, he figured out that the US is bigger than whatever wealth he may have hoarded.

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                                  • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zipT [email protected]

                                    As a publicly traded US company, can't the board of directors vote Elon out because of tanking sales? Seems like that's the only way for the company to survive at this point.

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                                    He'll still retain his shares. Which is the source of his wealth.

                                    For my money I'm going to throw a goddamn party if this cursed stock hits double digits.

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                                    • K [email protected]

                                      I wish people would also boycott Zuckerberg‘s products and Peter thiel‘s PayPal.

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                                      PayPal blocked my account in like 2017 or something, never used it again

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                                        Good. 30% left to go.

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                                          I live in one of the Eastern countries and surprisingly most tesla owners I see on the street are from Ukraine. We don't even have developed infrastructure to use that car.

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                                          Because only rich Ukranians could afford them, and the rich ones fled Ukraine when the war kicked up.

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