Trying Out Pop OS on my laptop
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Hi all,
I'm traveling for a few months so I picked up a used gaming laptop from one of those trading sites. It's an ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 2024.
I initially went with Windows because I wanted to game. I was gonna miss my terminal for dev and a bunch of other things but I thought compatibility and not dealing with hassle was more important for now. The thing is, for some reason, the laptop would be running really hot all the time ... even when idling.
I got fed up and I put Pop OS! loaded steam with the compatibility stuff and ran a few games really well. My only issue so far was that the laptop keyboard didn't work during installation but after an update it was fine. The laptop obviously gets hot when running games but when idling it runs really cool.
This is now making me feel like I can convert my gaming desktop over as well!
I was considering Bazzite too? Anyone know if it's worth it?
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Hi all,
I'm traveling for a few months so I picked up a used gaming laptop from one of those trading sites. It's an ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 2024.
I initially went with Windows because I wanted to game. I was gonna miss my terminal for dev and a bunch of other things but I thought compatibility and not dealing with hassle was more important for now. The thing is, for some reason, the laptop would be running really hot all the time ... even when idling.
I got fed up and I put Pop OS! loaded steam with the compatibility stuff and ran a few games really well. My only issue so far was that the laptop keyboard didn't work during installation but after an update it was fine. The laptop obviously gets hot when running games but when idling it runs really cool.
This is now making me feel like I can convert my gaming desktop over as well!
I was considering Bazzite too? Anyone know if it's worth it?
Bazzite is great if you want to just game, but you run into trouble if you're trying to tinker with it because of the immutable nature of it.
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Hi all,
I'm traveling for a few months so I picked up a used gaming laptop from one of those trading sites. It's an ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 2024.
I initially went with Windows because I wanted to game. I was gonna miss my terminal for dev and a bunch of other things but I thought compatibility and not dealing with hassle was more important for now. The thing is, for some reason, the laptop would be running really hot all the time ... even when idling.
I got fed up and I put Pop OS! loaded steam with the compatibility stuff and ran a few games really well. My only issue so far was that the laptop keyboard didn't work during installation but after an update it was fine. The laptop obviously gets hot when running games but when idling it runs really cool.
This is now making me feel like I can convert my gaming desktop over as well!
I was considering Bazzite too? Anyone know if it's worth it?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Ubuntu 24.04 would both be a solid recommendation, as you don't really need a 'gaming' distro per se to game on Linux! It boils down to software choices, hardware support, and a recent Linux Kernel for said hardware support. (I edited this due to noticing the laptop you are using has an NVIDIA Graphics card, and historically Fedora takes umbrage with proprietary drivers).
I run Kubuntu 24.04, using Heroic Launcher for installation and playing my GOG games, Steam (with Proton Compatibility Layer for non-native games) for games I bought there.
If you want to, there's nothing wrong with using Bazzite on your laptop. Bazzite is more useful for gaming handhelds in my opinion; while any distro with sane defaults work just as well.
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Hi all,
I'm traveling for a few months so I picked up a used gaming laptop from one of those trading sites. It's an ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 2024.
I initially went with Windows because I wanted to game. I was gonna miss my terminal for dev and a bunch of other things but I thought compatibility and not dealing with hassle was more important for now. The thing is, for some reason, the laptop would be running really hot all the time ... even when idling.
I got fed up and I put Pop OS! loaded steam with the compatibility stuff and ran a few games really well. My only issue so far was that the laptop keyboard didn't work during installation but after an update it was fine. The laptop obviously gets hot when running games but when idling it runs really cool.
This is now making me feel like I can convert my gaming desktop over as well!
I was considering Bazzite too? Anyone know if it's worth it?
Although it's certainly a popular distribution, my understanding is that Bazzite's future is currently uncertain due to Fedora's decision to remove certain 32-bit libraries in future and the folks behind Bazzite saying they may need to end the project because of it.
I don't know the details, and it's possible that Fedora will reconsider, someone may make those libraries available downstream, or the Bazzite folks may have been hyperbolic, but it's worth looking for the details and potential impacts. (Don't take my reply as an accurate assessment).
As an alternative, I can recommend an excellent game-friendly distro: EndeavourOS. It's based on Arch, rather than Fedora. I use it on my gaming PC and my general use laptop. I'm approaching the 2 year mark with this distro.
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Hi all,
I'm traveling for a few months so I picked up a used gaming laptop from one of those trading sites. It's an ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 2024.
I initially went with Windows because I wanted to game. I was gonna miss my terminal for dev and a bunch of other things but I thought compatibility and not dealing with hassle was more important for now. The thing is, for some reason, the laptop would be running really hot all the time ... even when idling.
I got fed up and I put Pop OS! loaded steam with the compatibility stuff and ran a few games really well. My only issue so far was that the laptop keyboard didn't work during installation but after an update it was fine. The laptop obviously gets hot when running games but when idling it runs really cool.
This is now making me feel like I can convert my gaming desktop over as well!
I was considering Bazzite too? Anyone know if it's worth it?
I love POP OS, but it being stuck at 22.04 until Cosmic is done is less than ideal. But I'm hoping Cosmic's full release is both awesome and ready when 26.04 is upon us.
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Hi all,
I'm traveling for a few months so I picked up a used gaming laptop from one of those trading sites. It's an ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 2024.
I initially went with Windows because I wanted to game. I was gonna miss my terminal for dev and a bunch of other things but I thought compatibility and not dealing with hassle was more important for now. The thing is, for some reason, the laptop would be running really hot all the time ... even when idling.
I got fed up and I put Pop OS! loaded steam with the compatibility stuff and ran a few games really well. My only issue so far was that the laptop keyboard didn't work during installation but after an update it was fine. The laptop obviously gets hot when running games but when idling it runs really cool.
This is now making me feel like I can convert my gaming desktop over as well!
I was considering Bazzite too? Anyone know if it's worth it?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]The thing is, for some reason, the laptop would be running really hot all the time ... even when idling.
Because it's not idling. Windows is never idle.
My only issue so far was that the laptop keyboard didn't work during installation but after an update it was fine.
I've heard and seen this so many times (especially in a viral video featuring PopOS "Yes, do as I say"), I really don't understand why distro devs don't immediately force/ask you to update the system after installation.
This is now making me feel like I can convert my gaming desktop over as well! I was considering Bazzite too? Anyone know if it's worth it?
I did it a few years ago (previously ChimeraOS) and it's 100% worth it. Unless you play competitive multiplayer or any kind of sims that require peripherals.
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Hi all,
I'm traveling for a few months so I picked up a used gaming laptop from one of those trading sites. It's an ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 2024.
I initially went with Windows because I wanted to game. I was gonna miss my terminal for dev and a bunch of other things but I thought compatibility and not dealing with hassle was more important for now. The thing is, for some reason, the laptop would be running really hot all the time ... even when idling.
I got fed up and I put Pop OS! loaded steam with the compatibility stuff and ran a few games really well. My only issue so far was that the laptop keyboard didn't work during installation but after an update it was fine. The laptop obviously gets hot when running games but when idling it runs really cool.
This is now making me feel like I can convert my gaming desktop over as well!
I was considering Bazzite too? Anyone know if it's worth it?
Pika OS is a gaming distro based on Debian which in my experience one of the most stable and reliable upstream distros that I trust, Pika adds all the gaming stuff you could possibly want and all the library and driver updates that you need to stay current and basically fixes what I consider Debian's only flaw (that its stability can make non-security update and driver updates slow and unsuitable for the latest and greatest games and technologies). Overall I'm really enjoying it, I'm daily driving it and have it installed on several laptops with no hardware issues at all. Just be careful that you need to use the NVIDIA-specific install ISO if you have a recent NVIDIA card.
I've also heard good things about CachyOS, personally it would take a lot to drag me over to the Arch ecosystem but if you already have a Steam Deck anyway it might be a great place to be.
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Bazzite is great if you want to just game, but you run into trouble if you're trying to tinker with it because of the immutable nature of it.
This. I'd say it's perfect for people who don't want to tinker at all, and it's excellent for experts who either know or will enjoy learning how to make its containerization/sandboxing/whatever approaches work out. "Tinkering" is the specific doughnut hole where it is a problem. I replaced it with Tuxedo OS because I was frustrated with trying to set up the toolset for the QMK keyboard firmware, and it turned out there's a whole layer of things you have to do to make it work, and some of the simpler ones simply break the immutability. A few other tools I wanted to use were running into similar hurdles.
NOw, it's not that I beleive any of this stuff was a showstopper for everyone; I have too much confidence in the community for that. I am just old and dumb and while I love using Linux, I don't necessarily want Linux itself to be my hobby. Now all that said, my Minecraft and Starfield installs were working really well on Bazzite, and I haven't done any gaming in recent weeks so I hope they'll be as good on Tuxedo.
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I love POP OS, but it being stuck at 22.04 until Cosmic is done is less than ideal. But I'm hoping Cosmic's full release is both awesome and ready when 26.04 is upon us.
Even if it's out of beta for 26.04, you'll probably want to wait a few releases before giving it a go. It's bound to be quite unstable for a few years.
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Even if it's out of beta for 26.04, you'll probably want to wait a few releases before giving it a go. It's bound to be quite unstable for a few years.
Been running cosmic as dialy driver for a few months now. It is good enough
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Although it's certainly a popular distribution, my understanding is that Bazzite's future is currently uncertain due to Fedora's decision to remove certain 32-bit libraries in future and the folks behind Bazzite saying they may need to end the project because of it.
I don't know the details, and it's possible that Fedora will reconsider, someone may make those libraries available downstream, or the Bazzite folks may have been hyperbolic, but it's worth looking for the details and potential impacts. (Don't take my reply as an accurate assessment).
As an alternative, I can recommend an excellent game-friendly distro: EndeavourOS. It's based on Arch, rather than Fedora. I use it on my gaming PC and my general use laptop. I'm approaching the 2 year mark with this distro.
Bazzite's future is currently uncertain due to Fedora's decision to remove certain 32-bit libraries
My understanding is that they already walked that back due to overwhelmingly negative community reception.
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Bazzite's future is currently uncertain due to Fedora's decision to remove certain 32-bit libraries
My understanding is that they already walked that back due to overwhelmingly negative community reception.
It's one of those changes that will happen sooner or later, bazzite and steam need to figure out a solution because fedora, and other modern distros can't and won't keep dragging around 32 bit libraries forever.
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Pika OS is a gaming distro based on Debian which in my experience one of the most stable and reliable upstream distros that I trust, Pika adds all the gaming stuff you could possibly want and all the library and driver updates that you need to stay current and basically fixes what I consider Debian's only flaw (that its stability can make non-security update and driver updates slow and unsuitable for the latest and greatest games and technologies). Overall I'm really enjoying it, I'm daily driving it and have it installed on several laptops with no hardware issues at all. Just be careful that you need to use the NVIDIA-specific install ISO if you have a recent NVIDIA card.
I've also heard good things about CachyOS, personally it would take a lot to drag me over to the Arch ecosystem but if you already have a Steam Deck anyway it might be a great place to be.
Pika OS is looking pretty good. The website is saying all the things that I like!
The laptop has an RTX 4000 card so it looks like I'll need the specific OS, but I think it was the same as Pop OS. I had to download a specific Nvidia distro version as well, so it's very similar here. I'll give it a spin shortly!
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Been running cosmic as dialy driver for a few months now. It is good enough
Second this. It was really rough for a while, but now it's mostly (mostly!) smooth. Still waiting for a mesa version with the Doom fixes, though, so don't expect frequent driver updates. I think maybe the stable Pop release is better with this?
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It's one of those changes that will happen sooner or later, bazzite and steam need to figure out a solution because fedora, and other modern distros can't and won't keep dragging around 32 bit libraries forever.
Isn't it possible to use flatpak? Then Steam would come with all its required 32 bit libraries in the flatpak.
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Hi all,
I'm traveling for a few months so I picked up a used gaming laptop from one of those trading sites. It's an ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 2024.
I initially went with Windows because I wanted to game. I was gonna miss my terminal for dev and a bunch of other things but I thought compatibility and not dealing with hassle was more important for now. The thing is, for some reason, the laptop would be running really hot all the time ... even when idling.
I got fed up and I put Pop OS! loaded steam with the compatibility stuff and ran a few games really well. My only issue so far was that the laptop keyboard didn't work during installation but after an update it was fine. The laptop obviously gets hot when running games but when idling it runs really cool.
This is now making me feel like I can convert my gaming desktop over as well!
I was considering Bazzite too? Anyone know if it's worth it?
Bazzite is fantastic for gaming. You can still tinker by creating new “layers” with rpm-ostree, but it’s a very different way of thinking about your system. It functions more like a container than a traditional system.
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It isn’t just Steam, but gaming in general. Dropping 32bit support would kill a huge swath of gaming and game preservation. Work is being done on tools like WoW64 but it’s slow going. No distro should even talk about dropping 32b until the rest of the ecosystem can pick up the slack. If Fedora wants to accelerate that, they should contribute to the projects that aim to provide backwards compatibility instead of scaring the whole Linux community with destructive and shortsighted proposals.
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Bazzite is fantastic for gaming. You can still tinker by creating new “layers” with rpm-ostree, but it’s a very different way of thinking about your system. It functions more like a container than a traditional system.
hmm, I still think I want to use my laptop for media and gaming and general stuff ... I'm leaving next week so I may try a safer OS in the mean time. I think when I get back I definitely want to delve deeper into Bazzite. I think I wanna see if Bazzite would be a good match for my friend. He was thinking about an XBOX Asus ROG Ally X and I was saying that it's quite pricey if you're not going to use the handheld component. He said he just wanted a console-like experience so he can just turn it on and play and that he has a Mac for his other stuff. I'm reading the Bazzite github repo and it says: "Directly boots to Game mode matching SteamOS's behavior." for the Home Theatre PCs which is what seems to match for him.
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Isn't it possible to use flatpak? Then Steam would come with all its required 32 bit libraries in the flatpak.
No. At least not for projects like Bazzite, where Steam features like Big Picture / SteamOS mode can’t work as a flatpak for technical reasons. There are also major problems running games that way, too. The technical details are being heatedly discussed in the Fedora community if your interested in the nitty-gritties.
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Ubuntu 24.04 would both be a solid recommendation, as you don't really need a 'gaming' distro per se to game on Linux! It boils down to software choices, hardware support, and a recent Linux Kernel for said hardware support. (I edited this due to noticing the laptop you are using has an NVIDIA Graphics card, and historically Fedora takes umbrage with proprietary drivers).
I run Kubuntu 24.04, using Heroic Launcher for installation and playing my GOG games, Steam (with Proton Compatibility Layer for non-native games) for games I bought there.
If you want to, there's nothing wrong with using Bazzite on your laptop. Bazzite is more useful for gaming handhelds in my opinion; while any distro with sane defaults work just as well.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Kubuntu with the minimal install is a great choice. All the benefits of Ubuntu and KDE Plasma without the Snap rubbish. Canonical still gives me ick, though.
