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[SERIES] What is your opinion on the old saying {"In vino veritas"}?

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    Do you think its a decent rule of thumb or is it not really a reliable platitude?

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      A few things, I'm autistic and it takes a lot of effort when talking to people especially new people for me to process how I need to talk so that the things I want to say are understood. When I drank I spoke as though I were talking to myself without all the translation process.

      So in one way you could say I spoke more "true" when drunk, however the conversation would not be understood in the way I had intended.

      Another thing how many people have professed their love and devotion for you while drunk only to stab you in the back while sober?

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        Yup. We might take things a little further than normal, but start dropping the N-word or beating your spouse and that's not the alcohol talking. You're just an asshole.

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          Probably more accurate to say "in wine, no filter." People are more likely to say what's on their mind. But what's on their mind could be complete nonsense.

          I've said a lot of dumb shit drunk.

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            Age quod agis

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              Luventus stultorum magister

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                It can be, but the problem with getting a truth from someone drunk, is that a drunk person is also an unreliable narrator.

                Hard to tell when you're actually hearing a truth or just alcohol induced nonsense

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                  Probably more accurate to say "in wine, no filter." People are more likely to say what's on their mind. But what's on their mind could be complete nonsense.

                  I've said a lot of dumb shit drunk.

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                  Wat was dumbest

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                    It can be, but the problem with getting a truth from someone drunk, is that a drunk person is also an unreliable narrator.

                    Hard to tell when you're actually hearing a truth or just alcohol induced nonsense

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                    Arent they more receptive to also tracing back their way to that potential truth?

                    Like if you ask them to show their work, wouldnt that give you a lot more information to use to evaluate if its ultimately bullshit or atleast credible?

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                      Alcohol depresses your inhibitions. Your inhibitions are what largely make up your morals, your morals your personality.

                      “Never have I ever” is an icebreaker get-to-know-you game for a reason.

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                        Arent they more receptive to also tracing back their way to that potential truth?

                        Like if you ask them to show their work, wouldnt that give you a lot more information to use to evaluate if its ultimately bullshit or atleast credible?

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                        Someone drunk enough to tell a truth that they wouldn't otherwise have done so, is probably going to have a hard time tracing back down any train of thought more than a couple of hops in my experience.

                        And that's if you can convince them to do that at all.

                        If you're looking to verify something you think you already know, maybe slightly better chances

                        Of course, YMMV and it's worth saying you really shouldn't try to manufacture this scenario with the purpose of finding something out, that's probably a line crossed for most people

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                          Someone drunk enough to tell a truth that they wouldn't otherwise have done so, is probably going to have a hard time tracing back down any train of thought more than a couple of hops in my experience.

                          And that's if you can convince them to do that at all.

                          If you're looking to verify something you think you already know, maybe slightly better chances

                          Of course, YMMV and it's worth saying you really shouldn't try to manufacture this scenario with the purpose of finding something out, that's probably a line crossed for most people

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                          I feel like at that point, its basically similar to hypnosis haha. You would definitely want to be in the "asking only questions you already know the answer to" but still

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                            I think it's just that ethanol intoxication causes disinhibition.

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                              No shot I'm repeating that here.

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                                No shot I'm repeating that here.

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                                K second dumbest...give us something

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                                  I do think how someone acts when drunk tells you a lot about them. Not so much that you can get the correct answer to some question, but their behavior while drunk is a view of their thinking. Disinhibition, as someone else noted.

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                                    It's nonsense.

                                    Alcohol interferes with neurological function. It doesn't reveal the truth about who you are any more than a head injury would.

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                                      truth is relative. etoh is a CNS depressant which means your inhibitory functions are diminished when you drink. which means it's harder to resist impulses or keep a secret when drinking. again, relatively speaking.

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                                        It's close enough, ig: drunk people are less inhibited and cannot think as clearly and quickly as they do sober so, either out of lack of care or simply because they cannot keep in mind which things shouldn't be said for X and Y reasons, they might say something they held close and would not share sober. Why?

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                                          Fun fact: the spooks in the government have tried for decades to create a truth serum, but nothing they come up with outperforms alcohol. They do have stronger stuff, but they also cause vivid hallucinations or make you loopy as fuck, and there's not much use in interrogating someone who currently believes they have knife hands or are Jesus Christ himself. Alcohol leaves you pretty much lucid no matter how sloshed you get, even if you end up blackout drunk.

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