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Mozilla is already revising its new Firefox terms to clarify how it handles user data

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  • J [email protected]

    Ruh roh. Too late though.

    Friendship ended with Firefox,❎
    Librewolf is my new best friend. ✅

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    #16

    Friendship ended with Firefox,❎ Librewolf is my new best friend. ✅

    A big problem with such forks (same with packages made by Linux distributors) is that there is a delay between official FF release and the release of the corresponding update of the fork. 99% of the time this doesn't matter much but when there is a severe security issue, the patch needs to be available ASAP.

    Past enshittifications of Firefox could be disabled by users. Users who know what to disable don't need such forks then.

    I'm not yet clear what Mozilla even intends. Is it just an adjustment of language of things that are already in FF and can be disabled easily? If so, I just keep the following shit disabled and benefit from earlier update releases.

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    • xatolos@reddthat.comX [email protected]

      AI Summary:

      Overview:

      • Mozilla is updating its new Terms of Use for Firefox due to criticism over unclear language about user data.
      • Original terms seemed to give Mozilla broad ownership of user data, causing concern.
      • Updated terms emphasize limited scope of data interaction, stating Mozilla only needs rights necessary to operate Firefox.
      • Mozilla acknowledges confusion and aims to clarify their intent to make Firefox work without owning user content.
      • Company explains they don't make blanket claims of "never selling data" due to evolving legal definitions and obligations.
      • Mozilla collects and shares some data with partners to keep Firefox commercially viable, but ensures data is anonymized or shared in aggregate.
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      #17

      What’s the best alternative on Mac?

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      • H [email protected]

        What’s the best alternative on Mac?

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        #18

        You could try zen browser

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        • M [email protected]

          You could try zen browser

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          It looks like Arc but built on Firefox’s engine? That’s sick. I’ll give it a look.

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          • H [email protected]

            What’s the best alternative on Mac?

            merde@sh.itjust.worksM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #20

            mullvad

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            • xatolos@reddthat.comX [email protected]

              AI Summary:

              Overview:

              • Mozilla is updating its new Terms of Use for Firefox due to criticism over unclear language about user data.
              • Original terms seemed to give Mozilla broad ownership of user data, causing concern.
              • Updated terms emphasize limited scope of data interaction, stating Mozilla only needs rights necessary to operate Firefox.
              • Mozilla acknowledges confusion and aims to clarify their intent to make Firefox work without owning user content.
              • Company explains they don't make blanket claims of "never selling data" due to evolving legal definitions and obligations.
              • Mozilla collects and shares some data with partners to keep Firefox commercially viable, but ensures data is anonymized or shared in aggregate.
              max_p@lemmy.max-p.meM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #21

              They have no business collecting any data in the first place. If I wanted my data collected I'd be using Chrome like everyone else. I'm not choosing to use their buggy ass inferior and slower browser for any of Mozilla's services, I'm choosing it because I want to support non-Chromium browsers and regain my privacy.

              There's no point whatsoever to using Firefox if it's just a worse Chrome.

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              • H [email protected]

                It looks like Arc but built on Firefox’s engine? That’s sick. I’ll give it a look.

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                #22

                I downloaded it and signed into to Sync and i gotta be honest it’s a little half baked. I think I’ll stick with Firefox for now until it leaves beta.

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                • xatolos@reddthat.comX [email protected]

                  AI Summary:

                  Overview:

                  • Mozilla is updating its new Terms of Use for Firefox due to criticism over unclear language about user data.
                  • Original terms seemed to give Mozilla broad ownership of user data, causing concern.
                  • Updated terms emphasize limited scope of data interaction, stating Mozilla only needs rights necessary to operate Firefox.
                  • Mozilla acknowledges confusion and aims to clarify their intent to make Firefox work without owning user content.
                  • Company explains they don't make blanket claims of "never selling data" due to evolving legal definitions and obligations.
                  • Mozilla collects and shares some data with partners to keep Firefox commercially viable, but ensures data is anonymized or shared in aggregate.
                  W This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #23

                  Pornhub now remembers what sort of porn you like while browsing incognito. Is this also happening with other browsers? I just don't wanna have my wife know what kid of bdsm I really like. It keeps things fun that way. Fun, gun, hun, nun, are all too close on the keyboard. Autocorrect can't fix that.

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                  • xatolos@reddthat.comX [email protected]

                    AI Summary:

                    Overview:

                    • Mozilla is updating its new Terms of Use for Firefox due to criticism over unclear language about user data.
                    • Original terms seemed to give Mozilla broad ownership of user data, causing concern.
                    • Updated terms emphasize limited scope of data interaction, stating Mozilla only needs rights necessary to operate Firefox.
                    • Mozilla acknowledges confusion and aims to clarify their intent to make Firefox work without owning user content.
                    • Company explains they don't make blanket claims of "never selling data" due to evolving legal definitions and obligations.
                    • Mozilla collects and shares some data with partners to keep Firefox commercially viable, but ensures data is anonymized or shared in aggregate.
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                    #24

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                    • H [email protected]

                      It looks like Arc but built on Firefox’s engine? That’s sick. I’ll give it a look.

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                      #25

                      Nah, it's abandoned as the company turned to ai stuff

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                      • xatolos@reddthat.comX [email protected]

                        AI Summary:

                        Overview:

                        • Mozilla is updating its new Terms of Use for Firefox due to criticism over unclear language about user data.
                        • Original terms seemed to give Mozilla broad ownership of user data, causing concern.
                        • Updated terms emphasize limited scope of data interaction, stating Mozilla only needs rights necessary to operate Firefox.
                        • Mozilla acknowledges confusion and aims to clarify their intent to make Firefox work without owning user content.
                        • Company explains they don't make blanket claims of "never selling data" due to evolving legal definitions and obligations.
                        • Mozilla collects and shares some data with partners to keep Firefox commercially viable, but ensures data is anonymized or shared in aggregate.
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                        #26

                        Too late. I've already moved to another browser

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                          Pornhub now remembers what sort of porn you like while browsing incognito. Is this also happening with other browsers? I just don't wanna have my wife know what kid of bdsm I really like. It keeps things fun that way. Fun, gun, hun, nun, are all too close on the keyboard. Autocorrect can't fix that.

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                          yet you missed the elephant in the room.

                          kid

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                          • xatolos@reddthat.comX [email protected]

                            AI Summary:

                            Overview:

                            • Mozilla is updating its new Terms of Use for Firefox due to criticism over unclear language about user data.
                            • Original terms seemed to give Mozilla broad ownership of user data, causing concern.
                            • Updated terms emphasize limited scope of data interaction, stating Mozilla only needs rights necessary to operate Firefox.
                            • Mozilla acknowledges confusion and aims to clarify their intent to make Firefox work without owning user content.
                            • Company explains they don't make blanket claims of "never selling data" due to evolving legal definitions and obligations.
                            • Mozilla collects and shares some data with partners to keep Firefox commercially viable, but ensures data is anonymized or shared in aggregate.
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                            Whats the alternative on android?

                            B S yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zoneY 3 Replies Last reply
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                            • xatolos@reddthat.comX [email protected]

                              AI Summary:

                              Overview:

                              • Mozilla is updating its new Terms of Use for Firefox due to criticism over unclear language about user data.
                              • Original terms seemed to give Mozilla broad ownership of user data, causing concern.
                              • Updated terms emphasize limited scope of data interaction, stating Mozilla only needs rights necessary to operate Firefox.
                              • Mozilla acknowledges confusion and aims to clarify their intent to make Firefox work without owning user content.
                              • Company explains they don't make blanket claims of "never selling data" due to evolving legal definitions and obligations.
                              • Mozilla collects and shares some data with partners to keep Firefox commercially viable, but ensures data is anonymized or shared in aggregate.
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                              I guess it is time to start setting up Nyxt.

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                              • G [email protected]

                                Whats the alternative on android?

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                                IronFox is an option

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                                • ? Guest

                                  Too late. I've already moved to another browser

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                                  Which one?
                                  There is literally nothing else.

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                                  • cosmiccleric@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                    Brodie thinks that they still let themselves some wiggle room for ""selling"" user data.

                                    ~This~ ~comment~ ~is~ ~licensed~ ~under~ ~CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0~

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                                    Brodie thinks that they stiww weft themsewves some wiggwe woom fow ""sewwing"" uwsew data.

                                    ~This~ ~modified~ ~version~ ~of~ ~your~ ~comment~ ~has~ ~been~ ~licensed~ ~under~ ~the~ ~GPLv3~

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                                    • skankhunt42@lemmy.caS [email protected]

                                      I've already moved most of my stuff to forks or different software altogether.

                                      Firefox -> LibreWolf and Waterfox

                                      Thunderbird -> Evolution

                                      I'm still trying to decide if I want to move off k9mail on mobile to something else. I probably will but I'm not sure what at this point.

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                                      I thought Thunderbird was a separate entitiy from Mozilla these days? And K-9 isn't owned by Thunderbird either? Am I mistaken?

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                                        "I am doing things that are not selling your data which some people consider to be selling your data"

                                        Why is he so cryptic? Neil, why don't you tell me what those things are and let me be the judge?

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                                        • D [email protected]

                                          Nah, it's abandoned as the company turned to ai stuff

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                                          Are you referring to Arc or to Zen?

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