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Mozilla is already revising its new Firefox terms to clarify how it handles user data

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  • M [email protected]

    You could try zen browser

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    It looks like Arc but built on Firefox’s engine? That’s sick. I’ll give it a look.

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      What’s the best alternative on Mac?

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      mullvad

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      • xatolos@reddthat.comX [email protected]

        AI Summary:

        Overview:

        • Mozilla is updating its new Terms of Use for Firefox due to criticism over unclear language about user data.
        • Original terms seemed to give Mozilla broad ownership of user data, causing concern.
        • Updated terms emphasize limited scope of data interaction, stating Mozilla only needs rights necessary to operate Firefox.
        • Mozilla acknowledges confusion and aims to clarify their intent to make Firefox work without owning user content.
        • Company explains they don't make blanket claims of "never selling data" due to evolving legal definitions and obligations.
        • Mozilla collects and shares some data with partners to keep Firefox commercially viable, but ensures data is anonymized or shared in aggregate.
        max_p@lemmy.max-p.meM This user is from outside of this forum
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        They have no business collecting any data in the first place. If I wanted my data collected I'd be using Chrome like everyone else. I'm not choosing to use their buggy ass inferior and slower browser for any of Mozilla's services, I'm choosing it because I want to support non-Chromium browsers and regain my privacy.

        There's no point whatsoever to using Firefox if it's just a worse Chrome.

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        • H [email protected]

          It looks like Arc but built on Firefox’s engine? That’s sick. I’ll give it a look.

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          I downloaded it and signed into to Sync and i gotta be honest it’s a little half baked. I think I’ll stick with Firefox for now until it leaves beta.

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          • xatolos@reddthat.comX [email protected]

            AI Summary:

            Overview:

            • Mozilla is updating its new Terms of Use for Firefox due to criticism over unclear language about user data.
            • Original terms seemed to give Mozilla broad ownership of user data, causing concern.
            • Updated terms emphasize limited scope of data interaction, stating Mozilla only needs rights necessary to operate Firefox.
            • Mozilla acknowledges confusion and aims to clarify their intent to make Firefox work without owning user content.
            • Company explains they don't make blanket claims of "never selling data" due to evolving legal definitions and obligations.
            • Mozilla collects and shares some data with partners to keep Firefox commercially viable, but ensures data is anonymized or shared in aggregate.
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            #23

            Pornhub now remembers what sort of porn you like while browsing incognito. Is this also happening with other browsers? I just don't wanna have my wife know what kid of bdsm I really like. It keeps things fun that way. Fun, gun, hun, nun, are all too close on the keyboard. Autocorrect can't fix that.

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            • xatolos@reddthat.comX [email protected]

              AI Summary:

              Overview:

              • Mozilla is updating its new Terms of Use for Firefox due to criticism over unclear language about user data.
              • Original terms seemed to give Mozilla broad ownership of user data, causing concern.
              • Updated terms emphasize limited scope of data interaction, stating Mozilla only needs rights necessary to operate Firefox.
              • Mozilla acknowledges confusion and aims to clarify their intent to make Firefox work without owning user content.
              • Company explains they don't make blanket claims of "never selling data" due to evolving legal definitions and obligations.
              • Mozilla collects and shares some data with partners to keep Firefox commercially viable, but ensures data is anonymized or shared in aggregate.
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              • H [email protected]

                It looks like Arc but built on Firefox’s engine? That’s sick. I’ll give it a look.

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                #25

                Nah, it's abandoned as the company turned to ai stuff

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                • xatolos@reddthat.comX [email protected]

                  AI Summary:

                  Overview:

                  • Mozilla is updating its new Terms of Use for Firefox due to criticism over unclear language about user data.
                  • Original terms seemed to give Mozilla broad ownership of user data, causing concern.
                  • Updated terms emphasize limited scope of data interaction, stating Mozilla only needs rights necessary to operate Firefox.
                  • Mozilla acknowledges confusion and aims to clarify their intent to make Firefox work without owning user content.
                  • Company explains they don't make blanket claims of "never selling data" due to evolving legal definitions and obligations.
                  • Mozilla collects and shares some data with partners to keep Firefox commercially viable, but ensures data is anonymized or shared in aggregate.
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                  #26

                  Too late. I've already moved to another browser

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                    Pornhub now remembers what sort of porn you like while browsing incognito. Is this also happening with other browsers? I just don't wanna have my wife know what kid of bdsm I really like. It keeps things fun that way. Fun, gun, hun, nun, are all too close on the keyboard. Autocorrect can't fix that.

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                    yet you missed the elephant in the room.

                    kid

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                    • xatolos@reddthat.comX [email protected]

                      AI Summary:

                      Overview:

                      • Mozilla is updating its new Terms of Use for Firefox due to criticism over unclear language about user data.
                      • Original terms seemed to give Mozilla broad ownership of user data, causing concern.
                      • Updated terms emphasize limited scope of data interaction, stating Mozilla only needs rights necessary to operate Firefox.
                      • Mozilla acknowledges confusion and aims to clarify their intent to make Firefox work without owning user content.
                      • Company explains they don't make blanket claims of "never selling data" due to evolving legal definitions and obligations.
                      • Mozilla collects and shares some data with partners to keep Firefox commercially viable, but ensures data is anonymized or shared in aggregate.
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                      Whats the alternative on android?

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                      • xatolos@reddthat.comX [email protected]

                        AI Summary:

                        Overview:

                        • Mozilla is updating its new Terms of Use for Firefox due to criticism over unclear language about user data.
                        • Original terms seemed to give Mozilla broad ownership of user data, causing concern.
                        • Updated terms emphasize limited scope of data interaction, stating Mozilla only needs rights necessary to operate Firefox.
                        • Mozilla acknowledges confusion and aims to clarify their intent to make Firefox work without owning user content.
                        • Company explains they don't make blanket claims of "never selling data" due to evolving legal definitions and obligations.
                        • Mozilla collects and shares some data with partners to keep Firefox commercially viable, but ensures data is anonymized or shared in aggregate.
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                        I guess it is time to start setting up Nyxt.

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                          Whats the alternative on android?

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                          IronFox is an option

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                          • ? Guest

                            Too late. I've already moved to another browser

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                            Which one?
                            There is literally nothing else.

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                            • cosmiccleric@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                              Brodie thinks that they still let themselves some wiggle room for ""selling"" user data.

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                              Brodie thinks that they stiww weft themsewves some wiggwe woom fow ""sewwing"" uwsew data.

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                              • skankhunt42@lemmy.caS [email protected]

                                I've already moved most of my stuff to forks or different software altogether.

                                Firefox -> LibreWolf and Waterfox

                                Thunderbird -> Evolution

                                I'm still trying to decide if I want to move off k9mail on mobile to something else. I probably will but I'm not sure what at this point.

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                                I thought Thunderbird was a separate entitiy from Mozilla these days? And K-9 isn't owned by Thunderbird either? Am I mistaken?

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                                  "I am doing things that are not selling your data which some people consider to be selling your data"

                                  Why is he so cryptic? Neil, why don't you tell me what those things are and let me be the judge?

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                                  • D [email protected]

                                    Nah, it's abandoned as the company turned to ai stuff

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                                    Are you referring to Arc or to Zen?

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                                      Pornhub now remembers what sort of porn you like while browsing incognito. Is this also happening with other browsers? I just don't wanna have my wife know what kid of bdsm I really like. It keeps things fun that way. Fun, gun, hun, nun, are all too close on the keyboard. Autocorrect can't fix that.

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                                      Pornhub now remembers what sort of porn you like while browsing incognito.

                                      Are you sure? All incognito windows run in the same memory space. If you open one window and do something in it, that session data is available to any other open incognito window open. To clear this ALL incognito windows need to be closed. Once they are all closed, you should be able to open a single new one and have no remnants of the previous sessions left over for the website to know you. The exceptions to this are if they are tracking activity from your IP address or if they are using Browser Fingerprinting on your session so they know even if you come from a different IP they know its your computer.

                                      I run into the IP tracking sometimes. The wife will be doing searches for some specific thing, and I'll see youtube recommendations show up on those topics even though I'm running youtube via incognito on completely different hardware (but we're both using the same public IP).

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                                        "I am doing things that are not selling your data which some people consider to be selling your data"

                                        Why is he so cryptic? Neil, why don't you tell me what those things are and let me be the judge?

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                                        some people consider indirect, cryptic answers to be complete

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                                          some people consider indirect, cryptic answers to be complete

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                                          Really? I would think most would consider them for what they are: evasive and probably deceptive

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