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Online ‘Pedophile Hunters’ Are Growing More Violent — and Going Viral: With the rise of loosely moderated social media platforms, a fringe vigilante movement is experiencing a dangerous evolution.

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  • archrecord@lemm.eeA [email protected]

    couldn’t they just run down the registered sex offender list

    The point of their channels is usually to find new predators that haven't been caught, so they can then face legal consequences, (or at least be pushed to stop acting on their desires) rather than to punish people for being pedophiles in general, so it wouldn't really make sense to go after those who were already convicted.

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    Typical. They have to think they’re smarter than everyone else. Soon enough they’ll just aim for people they don’t like or the wrong person entirely - like Reddit getting the wrong Boston Bomber. They’ll destroy someone’s life or they’ll get killed/commit suicide. “Oops..”

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      Reddit would be outraged about an 18 yo dating a 16 yo, though. Some people have really weird and unrealistic views on this

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      That's why I find reddit so strange. Age gaps is apparently the most demonic thing you can do. No matter if you're 19 dating a 17 or 34 dating a 27 you're a huge red flag either way.

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        I don’t have a problem with actual pedophiles that are caught in these dragnets.

        My problem arises from the lack of rigorous and well-documented investigation into the target before shite starts popping off. As the article pointed out, there is nothing wrong with a 22yo dating an 18yo. And the problem here is a sense of vindictiveness trying to manufacture targets where not all targets are guilty of pedophilia.

        So: you want to take a pipe wrench to warm over a pedophile? Make sure there is oodles of evidence that clearly and unambiguously makes the person a pedophile, and sure as shite I will look the other way. But the problem is that there is no self-reinforcing framework in place within the vigilante system to ensure and enforce this threshold of evidence. And without this system, innocent people are going to get hurt or killed.

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          Hmm, I seem to recall Trump being a pedophile.

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          ::: spoiler Yes.

          :::

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            In UNRELATED NEWS in Free Republican States Trans and Gay people are Legally PEDOPHILES!

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            You can tell they are Free because of all the people they are hurting.

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            • microw@lemm.eeM [email protected]

              Just happened here in Austria. Police took 20 people into custody (13 have since been formally arrested) for luring people to fake dates where they beat them up.

              The suspects said they hunted pedophiles, but at least in some of the cases they targeted young adults who expected to come to a date with 16-18 year olds.

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              16-18 year olds

              wouldnt those technically be Ephebophiles?

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                If they corner anyone, tbh. This is a pretty ruinous accusation.

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                If they corner anyone, tbh. This is a pretty ruinous accusation

                nah in the US they make you president for it

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                  I’m going to be honest, I’m suspicious of every single ‘pedophile hunter’. They are going after a demographic that people will not rush to defend, even if innocent.

                  Also, these ‘hunters’ probably have something shady going on in their own lives, and this is some form of projection that they also profit off of.

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                  I’m going to be honest, I’m suspicious of every single ‘pedophile hunter’

                  I find it suspicious that they dont just go for the low hanging priest fruit in the catholic church.... this does seem to be a largely religious group of people who conveniently ignore this behavior from their own kind.

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                  • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                    Typical. They have to think they’re smarter than everyone else. Soon enough they’ll just aim for people they don’t like or the wrong person entirely - like Reddit getting the wrong Boston Bomber. They’ll destroy someone’s life or they’ll get killed/commit suicide. “Oops..”

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                    It’s usually done by posing as a teenager in chats, then they get confronted at the meet-up.

                    Pretty solid way to identify the right person.

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                      In Norway last year we had a case where 5 16-19 yo set up a sextrap for a guy in his 40s.

                      The teens claimed he’s a pedo, beat him, filmed it and posted it online.

                      All of the “pedohunters” involved were found guilty on all accounts. The guy is free and getting a big pay out from the teens.

                      It’s really unfortunate, but these kinds of people aren’t in it to prevent child abuse. They’re in it for themselves.

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                      but these kinds of people aren’t in it to prevent child abuse. They’re in it for themselves

                      you just described all republican politicians

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                        I don’t have a problem with actual pedophiles that are caught in these dragnets.

                        My problem arises from the lack of rigorous and well-documented investigation into the target before shite starts popping off. As the article pointed out, there is nothing wrong with a 22yo dating an 18yo. And the problem here is a sense of vindictiveness trying to manufacture targets where not all targets are guilty of pedophilia.

                        So: you want to take a pipe wrench to warm over a pedophile? Make sure there is oodles of evidence that clearly and unambiguously makes the person a pedophile, and sure as shite I will look the other way. But the problem is that there is no self-reinforcing framework in place within the vigilante system to ensure and enforce this threshold of evidence. And without this system, innocent people are going to get hurt or killed.

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                        As the article pointed out, there is nothing wrong with a 22yo dating an 18yo.

                        Who said there is anything wrong with this?

                        How is tbsi even example of pedophile rape? It is two adults.

                        that's a weird thing to bring NYT tbh

                        Didn't see NYT editor get caught with videos of rape of his own children on his phone recently?

                        Maybe NYP?

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                          Well, there’s this case.

                          https://www.brusselstimes.com/373981/fake-pedophile-hunter-convicted-of-child-pornography

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                          ya it does seem to be a comings from a group of people who are overly obsessed with CP, like way more than the average person is.. might be a bit of projection on their part methinks

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                            As a main communitymember on a site with chats used by a huge amount of kids, I have seen how the internet makes it very easy, compared to oldentimes, for pedos to be in areas high in children. One of the kids there often complains about pedos and asked me to help remove them. So, with kids being a defenseless flock of animals, there ARE kids who then take a Defender role and they become the ouster of pedos. Also noteworthy is, right before I emailed an official pedocatching organization, the kid I was helping got in a confrontation and spilled the antipedo plans; which alerted the pedos and spoiled the plan. So the issue with kids doing high stakes things is they are mentally still children.

                            overall, pedos in kid areas, thanks to the internet, feels, to me, also on the rise. And those areas SHOULD have the pedos removed in an organized acceptable fashion; and that that doesn't happen causes some Defender kids to think they need to do it themselves.

                            imo get better real official pedo prevention measures up in kid spaces to reduce vigilantiism.

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                              As the article pointed out, there is nothing wrong with a 22yo dating an 18yo.

                              Who said there is anything wrong with this?

                              How is tbsi even example of pedophile rape? It is two adults.

                              that's a weird thing to bring NYT tbh

                              Didn't see NYT editor get caught with videos of rape of his own children on his phone recently?

                              Maybe NYP?

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                              Who said there is anything wrong with this?

                              How is tbsi even example of pedophile rape? It is two adults.

                              that's a weird thing to bring NYT tbh

                              Tell me you completely failed to grok my criticisms without saying that they flew clear over your head at 10,000m

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                                It’s usually done by posing as a teenager in chats, then they get confronted at the meet-up.

                                Pretty solid way to identify the right person.

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                                Ah, catch a predator style. Gotcha.

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                                • kneetitts@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                                  I’m going to be honest, I’m suspicious of every single ‘pedophile hunter’

                                  I find it suspicious that they dont just go for the low hanging priest fruit in the catholic church.... this does seem to be a largely religious group of people who conveniently ignore this behavior from their own kind.

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                                  The problem is, they are going for low hanging fruit by targeting unknowns with little to no representation.

                                  Catholic priests have the full force of the Catholic Church to protect them from legal attacks that some dinky YouTuber will not be able to combat.

                                  Also, Catholic priests do not need to go on dating apps or websites where they could potentially get lured because they are most likely targeting the children in their parish, under their direct control.

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                                    Who said there is anything wrong with this?

                                    How is tbsi even example of pedophile rape? It is two adults.

                                    that's a weird thing to bring NYT tbh

                                    Tell me you completely failed to grok my criticisms without saying that they flew clear over your head at 10,000m

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                                    The point I was making... Is that the article brought a red herring fact that has nothing to do with anything

                                    Why did they bring it up?

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                                      If they corner anyone, tbh. This is a pretty ruinous accusation

                                      nah in the US they make you president for it

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                                      Only if you're rich. I doubt these fuck sticks are going after rich people

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                                        Beating up pedophiles sounds great, so does beating up rapists and murderers, but remember you can be called a pedophile for leaning in close to a kid in a photo. "B-but in this case it really WAS a bad guy" doesn't justify mob violence. I don't want my safety to depend on the right people being in a particular mob on a Thursday.

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                                          Genuinely surprised and relived by the amount of common sense in this comment thread, that's all I have to say

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