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Online ‘Pedophile Hunters’ Are Growing More Violent — and Going Viral: With the rise of loosely moderated social media platforms, a fringe vigilante movement is experiencing a dangerous evolution.

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  • C [email protected]

    Great. Just dump anyone you dislike as a "pedophile" and then it's a free for all.

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    When AI can create any image or video based on another person with their perfect face and voice, besides the scams that will keep increasing, the other great value of the tech is that we going to be able to create any proof and footage we want to incriminate whoever we wish.

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      I’m going to be honest, I’m suspicious of every single ‘pedophile hunter’. They are going after a demographic that people will not rush to defend, even if innocent.

      Also, these ‘hunters’ probably have something shady going on in their own lives, and this is some form of projection that they also profit off of.

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      I see it as people wanting to commit righteous violence. People have violent impulses, but we usually control them. Some people with extraordinary violent tendencies go looking for a place where it’s “okay” to let them loose. This is not the only example.

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        Republicans and Church leaders everywhere are terrified.

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        • S [email protected]

          Hmm, I seem to recall Trump being a pedophile.

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          They don't actually care about pedophiles; a lot of them are pedophiles

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            I’m going to be honest, I’m suspicious of every single ‘pedophile hunter’. They are going after a demographic that people will not rush to defend, even if innocent.

            Also, these ‘hunters’ probably have something shady going on in their own lives, and this is some form of projection that they also profit off of.

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            There may be some angry former victims.

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            • D [email protected]

              Normal healthy people don't plan to commit violent offenses on other people, unless there is a direct connection to the 3rd parties actions. Hunting people they have no connection to for fame and fortune is sickening.

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              There is an excessive usage of the word 'hunting'. What all those people are doing is admitting that they consider people as animals, or an "acceptable" way of harassment. And just like people who where in the kkk they don't care who that person is, but that they're the most vulnerable minority.

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              • S [email protected]

                Yes and that's completely fair. It's about the imbalance of power. An 18 y.o. and one day, is exactly the same as they were two days prior.

                But the cutoff has to be somewhere, and the guy I was replying to was talking about proper adults and 16 y.o.

                That's a highschool sophomore. And I think we'd all agree a sophomore dating a college student would be pretty imbalanced.

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                And I think we’d all agree a sophomore dating a college student would be pretty imbalanced.

                I was a college student at 17, but I think you had a larger age difference in mind. I do think we can all agree there should be laws against adults sexually exploiting teenagers.

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                  Not advocating for all this, but if they really cared, couldn't they just run down the registered sex offender list and start with the multiple convictions?

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                  couldn’t they just run down the registered sex offender list

                  The point of their channels is usually to find new predators that haven't been caught, so they can then face legal consequences, (or at least be pushed to stop acting on their desires) rather than to punish people for being pedophiles in general, so it wouldn't really make sense to go after those who were already convicted.

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                  • archrecord@lemm.eeA [email protected]

                    couldn’t they just run down the registered sex offender list

                    The point of their channels is usually to find new predators that haven't been caught, so they can then face legal consequences, (or at least be pushed to stop acting on their desires) rather than to punish people for being pedophiles in general, so it wouldn't really make sense to go after those who were already convicted.

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                    Typical. They have to think they’re smarter than everyone else. Soon enough they’ll just aim for people they don’t like or the wrong person entirely - like Reddit getting the wrong Boston Bomber. They’ll destroy someone’s life or they’ll get killed/commit suicide. “Oops..”

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                    • T [email protected]

                      Reddit would be outraged about an 18 yo dating a 16 yo, though. Some people have really weird and unrealistic views on this

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                      That's why I find reddit so strange. Age gaps is apparently the most demonic thing you can do. No matter if you're 19 dating a 17 or 34 dating a 27 you're a huge red flag either way.

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                        I don’t have a problem with actual pedophiles that are caught in these dragnets.

                        My problem arises from the lack of rigorous and well-documented investigation into the target before shite starts popping off. As the article pointed out, there is nothing wrong with a 22yo dating an 18yo. And the problem here is a sense of vindictiveness trying to manufacture targets where not all targets are guilty of pedophilia.

                        So: you want to take a pipe wrench to warm over a pedophile? Make sure there is oodles of evidence that clearly and unambiguously makes the person a pedophile, and sure as shite I will look the other way. But the problem is that there is no self-reinforcing framework in place within the vigilante system to ensure and enforce this threshold of evidence. And without this system, innocent people are going to get hurt or killed.

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                        • S [email protected]

                          Hmm, I seem to recall Trump being a pedophile.

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                          ::: spoiler Yes.

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                          • B [email protected]

                            In UNRELATED NEWS in Free Republican States Trans and Gay people are Legally PEDOPHILES!

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                            You can tell they are Free because of all the people they are hurting.

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                            • microw@lemm.eeM [email protected]

                              Just happened here in Austria. Police took 20 people into custody (13 have since been formally arrested) for luring people to fake dates where they beat them up.

                              The suspects said they hunted pedophiles, but at least in some of the cases they targeted young adults who expected to come to a date with 16-18 year olds.

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                              16-18 year olds

                              wouldnt those technically be Ephebophiles?

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                              • C [email protected]

                                If they corner anyone, tbh. This is a pretty ruinous accusation.

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                                If they corner anyone, tbh. This is a pretty ruinous accusation

                                nah in the US they make you president for it

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                                  I’m going to be honest, I’m suspicious of every single ‘pedophile hunter’. They are going after a demographic that people will not rush to defend, even if innocent.

                                  Also, these ‘hunters’ probably have something shady going on in their own lives, and this is some form of projection that they also profit off of.

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                                  I’m going to be honest, I’m suspicious of every single ‘pedophile hunter’

                                  I find it suspicious that they dont just go for the low hanging priest fruit in the catholic church.... this does seem to be a largely religious group of people who conveniently ignore this behavior from their own kind.

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                                  • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                    Typical. They have to think they’re smarter than everyone else. Soon enough they’ll just aim for people they don’t like or the wrong person entirely - like Reddit getting the wrong Boston Bomber. They’ll destroy someone’s life or they’ll get killed/commit suicide. “Oops..”

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                                    It’s usually done by posing as a teenager in chats, then they get confronted at the meet-up.

                                    Pretty solid way to identify the right person.

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                                    • G [email protected]

                                      In Norway last year we had a case where 5 16-19 yo set up a sextrap for a guy in his 40s.

                                      The teens claimed he’s a pedo, beat him, filmed it and posted it online.

                                      All of the “pedohunters” involved were found guilty on all accounts. The guy is free and getting a big pay out from the teens.

                                      It’s really unfortunate, but these kinds of people aren’t in it to prevent child abuse. They’re in it for themselves.

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                                      but these kinds of people aren’t in it to prevent child abuse. They’re in it for themselves

                                      you just described all republican politicians

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                                      • R [email protected]

                                        I don’t have a problem with actual pedophiles that are caught in these dragnets.

                                        My problem arises from the lack of rigorous and well-documented investigation into the target before shite starts popping off. As the article pointed out, there is nothing wrong with a 22yo dating an 18yo. And the problem here is a sense of vindictiveness trying to manufacture targets where not all targets are guilty of pedophilia.

                                        So: you want to take a pipe wrench to warm over a pedophile? Make sure there is oodles of evidence that clearly and unambiguously makes the person a pedophile, and sure as shite I will look the other way. But the problem is that there is no self-reinforcing framework in place within the vigilante system to ensure and enforce this threshold of evidence. And without this system, innocent people are going to get hurt or killed.

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                                        As the article pointed out, there is nothing wrong with a 22yo dating an 18yo.

                                        Who said there is anything wrong with this?

                                        How is tbsi even example of pedophile rape? It is two adults.

                                        that's a weird thing to bring NYT tbh

                                        Didn't see NYT editor get caught with videos of rape of his own children on his phone recently?

                                        Maybe NYP?

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                                          Well, there’s this case.

                                          https://www.brusselstimes.com/373981/fake-pedophile-hunter-convicted-of-child-pornography

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                                          ya it does seem to be a comings from a group of people who are overly obsessed with CP, like way more than the average person is.. might be a bit of projection on their part methinks

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