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  3. Paul McCartney and Dua Lipa urge UK Prime Minister to rethink his AI copyright plans. A new law could soon allow AI companies to use copyrighted material without permission.

Paul McCartney and Dua Lipa urge UK Prime Minister to rethink his AI copyright plans. A new law could soon allow AI companies to use copyrighted material without permission.

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      What is the actual justification for this? Everyone has to pay for this except for AI companies, so AI can continue to develop into a universally regarded negative?

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        What is the actual justification for this? Everyone has to pay for this except for AI companies, so AI can continue to develop into a universally regarded negative?

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        AI doesn't copy things anymore than a person copies them by attending a concert or museum.

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          AI doesn't copy things anymore than a person copies them by attending a concert or museum.

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          This is 100% correct. You can downvote this person all you want but their not wrong!

          A painter doesn't own anything to the estate of Rembrandt because they took inspiration from his paintings.

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            This is 100% correct. You can downvote this person all you want but their not wrong!

            A painter doesn't own anything to the estate of Rembrandt because they took inspiration from his paintings.

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            So if you take away all the copywrited training data then it makes the same images?

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              So if you take away all the copywrited training data then it makes the same images?

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              No. And that's the point...

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                No. And that's the point...

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                So if it can't function properly without other people's work deciding what the art will look like that's called copying.

                If human beings get shit for copying famous art or tracing we need to hold AI to the same standard.

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                  So if it can't function properly without other people's work deciding what the art will look like that's called copying.

                  If human beings get shit for copying famous art or tracing we need to hold AI to the same standard.

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                  Copy

                  1. noun
                    a. an imitation, transcript, or reproduction of an original work (such as a letter, a painting, a table, or a dress)
                    b. one of a series of especially mechanical reproductions of an original impression
                    c. matter to be set especially for printing; also: something considered printable (such as an advertisement or news story)
                  1. verb
                    a. to make a copy or copies of
                    b. to model oneself on
                    c. to transfer (data, text, etc.) from one location to another, especially in computing

                  I can't believe I just had to provide you with a definition of the word copy.

                  Are you freaking serious!!!

                  Being inspired by and creating an original production is not the same as copying if that original work is inspired by other artists!!!

                  By your definition of copying because Elvis Presley was inspired by Muddy Waters they made the exact same music!

                  LLMs don't produce copyrighted material they take inspiration from the training data so to speak. They create original productions.

                  In the same way that you can envision the Mona Lisa in your head but you couldn't paint it by hand.

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                    Copy

                    1. noun
                      a. an imitation, transcript, or reproduction of an original work (such as a letter, a painting, a table, or a dress)
                      b. one of a series of especially mechanical reproductions of an original impression
                      c. matter to be set especially for printing; also: something considered printable (such as an advertisement or news story)
                    1. verb
                      a. to make a copy or copies of
                      b. to model oneself on
                      c. to transfer (data, text, etc.) from one location to another, especially in computing

                    I can't believe I just had to provide you with a definition of the word copy.

                    Are you freaking serious!!!

                    Being inspired by and creating an original production is not the same as copying if that original work is inspired by other artists!!!

                    By your definition of copying because Elvis Presley was inspired by Muddy Waters they made the exact same music!

                    LLMs don't produce copyrighted material they take inspiration from the training data so to speak. They create original productions.

                    In the same way that you can envision the Mona Lisa in your head but you couldn't paint it by hand.

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                    You know copying literal brushstrokes and traces identifiable from real artists is different than being inspired, it's amazing the level of denial you cultists will self induce to keep it making sense.

                    Your god is not valuable enough to give more rights than human beings. Sorry

                    I don't care what techbro conmen told you.

                    AI will never be a replacement for acrual creativity, and is already being legislated against properly in civilized countries.

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                      You know copying literal brushstrokes and traces identifiable from real artists is different than being inspired, it's amazing the level of denial you cultists will self induce to keep it making sense.

                      Your god is not valuable enough to give more rights than human beings. Sorry

                      I don't care what techbro conmen told you.

                      AI will never be a replacement for acrual creativity, and is already being legislated against properly in civilized countries.

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                      The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. - Stephen Hawking

                      The fact that you keep calling llm's AI simply indicate your ignorance as to what you're even talking about.

                      They're not copying brush Strokes they're creating their own.

                      You have no idea how these things work what they are or even what they do you're just on the bandwagon hating these tools for reasons that you don't even understand yourself.

                      If you're so upset with all this stuff go live in a Luddite community or something.

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