Do you think anyone will be able to remember who any of us are in 600 years?
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Few people left who remember me now already
I'll be forgotten once me, my wife, my family and my few friends die, so left say nobody will know me or my accomplishments 50 years from now, tops.
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ngl I don't know if the earth will even be inhabitable in 600 years
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yes, but only the biggest brightest bonfires.
will charlie kirk be known? nah. will Donald Trump be known? absolutely.
the bigger the bonfire, the more damaging it is to society.
I barely think Trump will be remembered. In 600 years we'll have a completely different economic/political system. I can't image our quaint ideas of 'nations' lasting much longer. This economic/political system was a flash in the pan from just after the Napoleonic wars till about now. I'm not sure what will come soon, but we've been stuck with an antiquated system now for over 70years.
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I actually have a geneology book （族谱） from my paternal lineage (everybody does this in China). Its just a bunch of names, and some history of the village summarized. I hate tradition and I'm already in the US right now, I dont give a shit about the stupid geneology book anymore, my ancesters will probably be so pisses to find out that I totally ignored all the hard efforts lol. (My village still has a copy, but I'm not adding more name to the stupid thing, a waste of time, its also misogynistic AF, if there's a daugher, then the lineage doesn't record their decendents. So dumb, as I guy, I hate this patriarchal bullshit)
I think the opposite with happen with the same results. Everyone's DNA will be on the books. It'll be revealed that we're all related somehow. You'll be able to orient the database any way that you want to see how you're related.
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I barely think Trump will be remembered. In 600 years we'll have a completely different economic/political system. I can't image our quaint ideas of 'nations' lasting much longer. This economic/political system was a flash in the pan from just after the Napoleonic wars till about now. I'm not sure what will come soon, but we've been stuck with an antiquated system now for over 70years.
ever heard of Genghis Khan? How about King Solomon? Judas ring a bell? Pharaoh Akhenaten?
"But trump isn't nearly as bad as half those people"
Just wait. The worst is yet to come.
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ever heard of Genghis Khan? How about King Solomon? Judas ring a bell? Pharaoh Akhenaten?
"But trump isn't nearly as bad as half those people"
Just wait. The worst is yet to come.
How much do you know about Francis II, that last Holy Roman Emperor? A few people read about him, but he’s not that common of a name.
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Few people left who remember me now already
I'll be forgotten once me, my wife, my family and my few friends die, so left say nobody will know me or my accomplishments 50 years from now, tops.
I wonder who the last person will be that knows how to fix a dos machine.
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How much do you know about Francis II, that last Holy Roman Emperor? A few people read about him, but he’s not that common of a name.
doesn't matter if I know their claim to fame. it's about name recognition. at least that's all OP was asking for.
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No.
Because history remembers people or groups who have made astounding and monumental moments that change the course of history.
They aren't going to remember a dude who spent most of their time jerking off and doing the average lifestyle.
And why 600 years?
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Remember in what capacity? I don't think any of our (users in this thread) names will be a part of conversation or on anyone's mind in any meaningful capacity. I do believe that digital storage is getting better and that our names and information about us will still probably exist somewhere in 600 years. So maybe somewhere someone might see your name. But that's very different than "remembering", you know?
We will live on in future LLMs, and possibly in the minds of AGI if that ever gets developed.
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They may not remember us by our names, but they'll be able to see the effects of the choices we made.
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yes, but only the biggest brightest bonfires.
will charlie kirk be known? nah. will Donald Trump be known? absolutely.
the bigger the bonfire, the more damaging it is to society.
He’ll be known like any other president 600 years ago
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yes, but only the biggest brightest bonfires.
will charlie kirk be known? nah. will Donald Trump be known? absolutely.
the bigger the bonfire, the more damaging it is to society.
If some people get their way, then Kirk will be remembered somewhat, like Franz Ferdinand.
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If someone is immortal they would.
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Depends how big you fuck up.
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doesn't matter if I know their claim to fame. it's about name recognition. at least that's all OP was asking for.
Without googling, can you tell me who Hideki Tojo is?
It's not that hard of a question and a lot of people willing know him, but unlike with say Hitler or Jesus, I also think there's a lot who isn't recognise the name at all.
Ofc it's probably not hard to guess the context here, but still. The point is about name recognition. I wonder how familiar the teenagers of today are with Reagan or Nixon. Clearly on a meme basis the names are still recognised. But in 100 years, after a half a dozen more Trumps?
Prolly less so.
Anyways I agree with the other guy that it's completely possible if not likely history will have ignored Trump in 600 years time.
But I guess none of us will be around to see that. Although I wouldn't be 100% sure of that either.
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We will live on in future LLMs, and possibly in the minds of AGI if that ever gets developed.
I was tangentially talking about this recently. Our effects live on even after we die. It seems prideful to worry about your name being associated with them. This wasn't in the context of LLMs though.
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I really doubt this. Humanity is really good at surviving things.
My prediction - at a certain point, we gain the ability to port human brains to computers. The most wealthy gain this tech first, and effectively become immortal. Using their wealth (which is likely always accumulating) they are able to afford lots of redundency and good tech + energy to function at extremely high levels of performance - essentially making them immortal gods. I assume they will form alliances and rivalries, and stake out ground based on the now-general-intelligence AIs they have created.
Most people who choose transhumanism after this will need to utilize their afterlife continuing to work in order to pay for the ongoing cost of running their servers.
Meanwhile, humans still made of meat will have started conducting experiments on their genetics. Initially this will be about simply reducing or removing the chance of carrying a genetic disease. But soon they will start working on how to generally be better than others - improved cognitive abilities; sexier, stronger bodies; improved emotional regulation. Not long after, it will start being considered irresponsible to have children without the standard genetic modifications that the middle class can afford. Permanent class stratifications will be etched into dna. Even further along, the rich take genetic modification into fashion, creating physical markers of class stratification which will gradually make them look less human. As genetic class differences widen, there will be increasing class wars - in each one, the upper classes and those aligned with them will eliminate more and more of the lower classes. Slavery will also make a comeback, as those without genetic modifications (or with sufficiently lesser modifications) will be deemed too irresponsible to manage their own affairs and function in society. The descendents of the ultra-rich transhumanist gods, who will have the best and most fashionable genetic modifications, will be the first to achieve immortality in the flesh. But there will probably develop a sort of cultural expectation that they eventually give up their flesh and become transhumans like their anscestors.
Therefore, I will not have children unless I earn enough to afford their genetic modifications. To do otherwise would be irresponsible.
Isn't this the plot of Schismatrix by Bruce Sterling, the rich Mechanists that extend their life through machines vs the Shapers who rely on genetic modifications. Love, Death and Robots adapted a few short stories from this books universe that were very good
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Isn't this the plot of Schismatrix by Bruce Sterling, the rich Mechanists that extend their life through machines vs the Shapers who rely on genetic modifications. Love, Death and Robots adapted a few short stories from this books universe that were very good
No idea, never heard of it. It just seems obvious to me with the way tech is going.
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Wikipedia does.
That's pretty neat actually.
