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Do you think anyone will be able to remember who any of us are in 600 years?

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    The vast, vast majority of people are forgotten within 100 years. Pretty much need to be in an extremely high position where records are kept, like presidents, or do something extraordinarily positive or negative.

    I strongly doubt anyone reading this post will be remembered after the people they met or interacted with directly have died.

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    With the U.S. only being 250 years old, I can't say anyone would remember presidents in 600 years. If the U.S. is gone there will likely be mention of 1 president that was in power when whatever came and took/changed it. During the planetary destruction revolution there was a plethora of wasteful greed. They called it an industrial revolution that ran rampant with greed and wastefulness.

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    • toomanypancakes@piefed.worldT [email protected]

      I don't think humanity is going to make it another 600 years tbh

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      I think humans might, but we won't have fancy skyscrapers, we'll be living in bunkers hiding from whatever disaster (war, plague, radiation, alien invasion) is on the surface.

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        The vast, vast majority of people are forgotten within 100 years. Pretty much need to be in an extremely high position where records are kept, like presidents, or do something extraordinarily positive or negative.

        I strongly doubt anyone reading this post will be remembered after the people they met or interacted with directly have died.

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        While that's true, we have much more extensive record keeping these days. I've been researching my family tree, and 100 years ago there were still a decent number of people who were mostly illiterate. Add to that documents like the census being handwritten in cursive on paper, and you get lots of errors being recorded, and the records themselves being damaged by age.

        Unless something drastic happens, a lot of our records will still exist in the centuries to come. It will mostly be our official records, but they should still be there 🙂

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          The vast, vast majority of people are forgotten within 100 years. Pretty much need to be in an extremely high position where records are kept, like presidents, or do something extraordinarily positive or negative.

          I strongly doubt anyone reading this post will be remembered after the people they met or interacted with directly have died.

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          Or be a really shitty copper merchant

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            I think humans might, but we won't have fancy skyscrapers, we'll be living in bunkers hiding from whatever disaster (war, plague, radiation, alien invasion) is on the surface.

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            An alien invasion couldn't possibly make things worse.

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              I read books from people that died centuries or even millennia ago (ok in their case, their writings are not technically speaking books, but you get the idea). So, a few of us could be remembered as well.

              Alas, there is a difference in our days and age: all our creations, text, images and sound, are digital. There is hardly any hardcopy anymore. And I doubt much if any of most of our 'dematerialized' content and even worse our cloud stored/streamed content will survive long after the last person stops paying the monthly fee. And even for those that don't are not cloud -stored, I doubt much will survive more than a few years after we have passed. Digital doesn't decay well.

              For those future human beings, if there are any left to study our times,, we could as well be known as the 'voiceless trash age', without much artifacts left beside a planet filled with waste and plastic craps. Oh, and piles and piles of dead smartphones, too.

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                With the U.S. only being 250 years old, I can't say anyone would remember presidents in 600 years. If the U.S. is gone there will likely be mention of 1 president that was in power when whatever came and took/changed it. During the planetary destruction revolution there was a plethora of wasteful greed. They called it an industrial revolution that ran rampant with greed and wastefulness.

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                History preserved the names of heads of state from countries that had a much shorter existence or impact. 600 years might seem a long time to Americans but it's not that long for historical memory.

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                  While that's true, we have much more extensive record keeping these days. I've been researching my family tree, and 100 years ago there were still a decent number of people who were mostly illiterate. Add to that documents like the census being handwritten in cursive on paper, and you get lots of errors being recorded, and the records themselves being damaged by age.

                  Unless something drastic happens, a lot of our records will still exist in the centuries to come. It will mostly be our official records, but they should still be there 🙂

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                  Is a name in a list really being remembered though?

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                    i sure fuckin hope not i don't even wanna remember me most days now

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                      Well, do you remember anyone from 1425 or even 1625?

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                      Wikipedia does.

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                        Depend depends upon the reason That they’re being remembered. For example of someone who came up the cure for cancer you would hope they’d be remembered.

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                        I'd rather the cure be remembered than that name of who discovered it.

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                          According to The Vandals, no. It's a fact.

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                            History from this period will feast or famine. If the Internet Archive is preserved long term, then your words on the Internet will be there. If not, then bitrot will happen within decades.

                            The feast result will be an interesting one for historians. We don't usually have historical records about common people of any era more than a century or two back. "History is written by the victors" isn't quite right. History is written by writers, and for most of history, those would be educated upper class people.

                            Historians love finding Roman graffiti, even when it's about some guy's giant cock. So yes, they'll be interested in your memes, too.

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                              Is a name in a list really being remembered though?

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                              It's not just names in lists though. Using my mother's grandparents as examples, I know where they were born and grew up, I know who they lived with at multiple points in their lives, and I know a few of the places where they lived.

                              I know where and when they got married, and some of the guests, and I know what children they had and when. As they were adults at the time, I know some of what my great grandfather was doing during the first World War and how he died.

                              I haven't done a deep dive into their lives yet as I've been working backwards, but I've already got a decent idea about who they were and what they were like. I know a fair bit about his parents and family too, as I checked that side first.

                              The biggest issues are finding photos, and the cost and availability of records. There are not many photos due to them not being as pervasive at the time, and there are not many records because a lot of things either weren't recorded or weren't saved. Both of those can be solved with the technology we have now. Lots of people have their own information saved, separate to the official sources, and it's easier to have multiple copies of everything, so they won't get lost or destroyed as easily.

                              Hopefully this means that we'll remember more of the past going forwards 🙂

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                                You never know, look at Ea Nasir.

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                                  Doesn't even take that long. My parent passed away and left boxes of pictures from 50 to 75 years ago and no one recognizes. Why did they have these pictures and boxes of them? No notes. Nothing.

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                                    I think humans might, but we won't have fancy skyscrapers, we'll be living in bunkers hiding from whatever disaster (war, plague, radiation, alien invasion) is on the surface.

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                                    I find it odd that natural disaster isn't on your list considering it's by far the most realistic scenario. Hell, it's already happening.

                                    I guess the word "natural" isn't very accurate for a climate disaster, but still, it's not on your list.

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                                      I think humans might, but we won't have fancy skyscrapers, we'll be living in bunkers hiding from whatever disaster (war, plague, radiation, alien invasion) is on the surface.

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                                      We sure are a dumb species. We’re able to construct all this stuff using the world around us but we can’t seems to figure out working together instead of constantly competing

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                                        That's quite sad tbh, we're all just tiny specks on the timeline of humans

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                                        It’s your’s to make of it what you will. It doesn’t have to be sad. It’s pretty incredible any of us are here in the first place with how many conditions had to be present for life to even be on earth. And then we evolved from single cell organisms into these complex beings that we are today. It’s pretty fucking nuts and fascinating.

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                                          I'd rather the cure be remembered than that name of who discovered it.

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                                          Why can’t it be both?

                                          Why does it need to be one or the other?

                                          Trust me if someone finds the cure for cancer, the cure will still be around in 200 years.

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