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Do you think anyone will be able to remember who any of us are in 600 years?

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    You never know, look at Ea Nasir.

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      Doesn't even take that long. My parent passed away and left boxes of pictures from 50 to 75 years ago and no one recognizes. Why did they have these pictures and boxes of them? No notes. Nothing.

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        I think humans might, but we won't have fancy skyscrapers, we'll be living in bunkers hiding from whatever disaster (war, plague, radiation, alien invasion) is on the surface.

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        I find it odd that natural disaster isn't on your list considering it's by far the most realistic scenario. Hell, it's already happening.

        I guess the word "natural" isn't very accurate for a climate disaster, but still, it's not on your list.

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          I think humans might, but we won't have fancy skyscrapers, we'll be living in bunkers hiding from whatever disaster (war, plague, radiation, alien invasion) is on the surface.

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          We sure are a dumb species. We’re able to construct all this stuff using the world around us but we can’t seems to figure out working together instead of constantly competing

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            That's quite sad tbh, we're all just tiny specks on the timeline of humans

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            It’s your’s to make of it what you will. It doesn’t have to be sad. It’s pretty incredible any of us are here in the first place with how many conditions had to be present for life to even be on earth. And then we evolved from single cell organisms into these complex beings that we are today. It’s pretty fucking nuts and fascinating.

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              I'd rather the cure be remembered than that name of who discovered it.

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              Why can’t it be both?

              Why does it need to be one or the other?

              Trust me if someone finds the cure for cancer, the cure will still be around in 200 years.

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                I read books from people that died centuries or even millennia ago (ok in their case, their writings are not technically speaking books, but you get the idea). So, a few of us could be remembered as well.

                Alas, there is a difference in our days and age: all our creations, text, images and sound, are digital. There is hardly any hardcopy anymore. And I doubt much if any of most of our 'dematerialized' content and even worse our cloud stored/streamed content will survive long after the last person stops paying the monthly fee. And even for those that don't are not cloud -stored, I doubt much will survive more than a few years after we have passed. Digital doesn't decay well.

                For those future human beings, if there are any left to study our times,, we could as well be known as the 'voiceless trash age', without much artifacts left beside a planet filled with waste and plastic craps. Oh, and piles and piles of dead smartphones, too.

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                Paper didn't survive much either. All we have of old documents are copies of copies of copies of copies, really. Even the most important documents- from those making up the Holy Bible to the Magna Carta - we just don't have.

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                  We sure are a dumb species. We’re able to construct all this stuff using the world around us but we can’t seems to figure out working together instead of constantly competing

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                  It all started in Eden with that fruit.

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                    History preserved the names of heads of state from countries that had a much shorter existence or impact. 600 years might seem a long time to Americans but it's not that long for historical memory.

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                    Sure, then everything in history would be "remembered" forever... Except no one would know or care. To me, that is not remembered.

                    I would say Jesus is forgotten completely at this point even though he is written/read everywhere

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                      I find it odd that natural disaster isn't on your list considering it's by far the most realistic scenario. Hell, it's already happening.

                      I guess the word "natural" isn't very accurate for a climate disaster, but still, it's not on your list.

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                      Technically, climate change by itself isn't what will destroy civilization, its the aftermath, mainly, the crops wouldn't be able to grow properly in a fucked up temperaure, weather, ecosystem...

                      Similar to "old age" in humans, nobody "dies of old age" in of itself, rather, its the complications that result from old age.

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                        There was a pic of my great-great-grandparents on the wall. No idea what their name was.

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                          "It's my estimation that every man ever got a statue made of him was one kind of sommbitch or another."

                          No one needs to remember me except my kids. Maybe my grandkids.

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                            Brave of you to assume that humanity will exist in 600 years.

                            Actually, we might be, but the better-off ones will be back at sticks and stones and huddling around wood fires and the like.

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                              Doesn't even take that long. My parent passed away and left boxes of pictures from 50 to 75 years ago and no one recognizes. Why did they have these pictures and boxes of them? No notes. Nothing.

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                              As they say in preservation, metadata is key.

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                                The vast, vast majority of people are forgotten within 100 years. Pretty much need to be in an extremely high position where records are kept, like presidents, or do something extraordinarily positive or negative.

                                I strongly doubt anyone reading this post will be remembered after the people they met or interacted with directly have died.

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                                I actually have a geneology book (族谱) from my paternal lineage (everybody does this in China). Its just a bunch of names, and some history of the village summarized. I hate tradition and I'm already in the US right now, I dont give a shit about the stupid geneology book anymore, my ancesters will probably be so pisses to find out that I totally ignored all the hard efforts lol. (My village still has a copy, but I'm not adding more name to the stupid thing, a waste of time, its also misogynistic AF, if there's a daugher, then the lineage doesn't record their decendents. So dumb, as I guy, I hate this patriarchal bullshit)

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                                  Considering how small my online presence is, nope. I'll be remember until the last of my family kick the bucket.

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                                    My name is on some US patents. Out of anything, I expect those to have the best odds of surviving for 600 years. Of course no one will look them up in 600 years unless they have really niche interests.

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                                      No, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

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                                        I actually have a geneology book (族谱) from my paternal lineage (everybody does this in China). Its just a bunch of names, and some history of the village summarized. I hate tradition and I'm already in the US right now, I dont give a shit about the stupid geneology book anymore, my ancesters will probably be so pisses to find out that I totally ignored all the hard efforts lol. (My village still has a copy, but I'm not adding more name to the stupid thing, a waste of time, its also misogynistic AF, if there's a daugher, then the lineage doesn't record their decendents. So dumb, as I guy, I hate this patriarchal bullshit)

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                                        Some aspects of that tradition are commendable, though. It would be neat to see this updated in a less male-centric fashion.

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                                          I am doing Genealogy as a hobby and in most of the lines I am in the 18the century, in some in the 17th century.

                                          What I learned during this hobby is a simple thing - the more generations you go back, the more ancestors you have - the formula is 2^n. So if you go back 10 generations, you have roughly 1,024 ancestors.

                                          Now imagine how many descendants these people have? I have met plenty of others nerds who are also doing genealogy, cousins by 7the grade and so on. There is always some dude doing this stuff, so I am pretty sure there will be one in the future.

                                          Of course I can only go back about 300-350 years, but we people today are leaving way more traces on this planet than my ancestors in the 17th century.

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