Do you think anyone will be able to remember who any of us are in 600 years?
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I am doing Genealogy as a hobby and in most of the lines I am in the 18the century, in some in the 17th century.
What I learned during this hobby is a simple thing - the more generations you go back, the more ancestors you have - the formula is 2^n. So if you go back 10 generations, you have roughly 1,024 ancestors.
Now imagine how many descendants these people have? I have met plenty of others nerds who are also doing genealogy, cousins by 7the grade and so on. There is always some dude doing this stuff, so I am pretty sure there will be one in the future.
Of course I can only go back about 300-350 years, but we people today are leaving way more traces on this planet than my ancestors in the 17th century.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I have a geneology book dating back 20 generations. Its all in tradition chinese and kinda blurry and I kinda never learned most of the charcters besides the basics. But I skimmed it and aparantly it dates back to 1200s. A lot of mention about emperors and stuff. Unfortunately I can't share it with y'all since that's kinda doxxing and I posted too much political stuff on Lemmy.
It's only the male ancestors, patriarchy and all, ya know.
Honestly, besides the snippets if history, I don't know what the point of the whole name lists is. Can't even find the aunts on there, what good is that for.
Like... there's not even a portrait (like a hand drawn one), just a bunch of names. What, am I gonna use that inherit some long lost magical kingdom that's gonna appear out of nowhere? Am I the Dragonborn? No lolz. I can't understand "tradition"
I guess its cool for declorations, make the house look ancient and mysterious?
The original is alresdy falling apart lol (probably not the original original, probably copied at least 5 times already, no way it survived 800 years), then all the genology books in the village kinda got consolidated into one big one containing all households. Everyone in the village has the same last name (I think). Y'all get to have sex in highschool, back in the days, people didn't get to choose, my parents kinda just got introduced to each other and they wete pressured to marry. Its technically consensual, but if they reject, they are just gonna introduce you to someone else. Kinda reminds me of the beginning of House of Dragon (except the part about being royalty of course, we are all just ordinary people). And my parents yell at each other a lot, kinda a fragile marriage...
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I really doubt this. Humanity is really good at surviving things.
My prediction - at a certain point, we gain the ability to port human brains to computers. The most wealthy gain this tech first, and effectively become immortal. Using their wealth (which is likely always accumulating) they are able to afford lots of redundency and good tech + energy to function at extremely high levels of performance - essentially making them immortal gods. I assume they will form alliances and rivalries, and stake out ground based on the now-general-intelligence AIs they have created.
Most people who choose transhumanism after this will need to utilize their afterlife continuing to work in order to pay for the ongoing cost of running their servers.
Meanwhile, humans still made of meat will have started conducting experiments on their genetics. Initially this will be about simply reducing or removing the chance of carrying a genetic disease. But soon they will start working on how to generally be better than others - improved cognitive abilities; sexier, stronger bodies; improved emotional regulation. Not long after, it will start being considered irresponsible to have children without the standard genetic modifications that the middle class can afford. Permanent class stratifications will be etched into dna. Even further along, the rich take genetic modification into fashion, creating physical markers of class stratification which will gradually make them look less human. As genetic class differences widen, there will be increasing class wars - in each one, the upper classes and those aligned with them will eliminate more and more of the lower classes. Slavery will also make a comeback, as those without genetic modifications (or with sufficiently lesser modifications) will be deemed too irresponsible to manage their own affairs and function in society. The descendents of the ultra-rich transhumanist gods, who will have the best and most fashionable genetic modifications, will be the first to achieve immortality in the flesh. But there will probably develop a sort of cultural expectation that they eventually give up their flesh and become transhumans like their anscestors.
Therefore, I will not have children unless I earn enough to afford their genetic modifications. To do otherwise would be irresponsible.
Is that even human tho?
Like the scientist who invented it will say its human, but from an ontology perspective, you can't ever be sure about that. That could just be killing you and copying your brain.
No way in hell I'm gonna "upload" my brain. It's suicide. Star trek teleporters are murder machines.
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The people of nepal, probably. Remembered as a collective
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Relative to a normal life, nobody knows me now... and with where and how I live that likely won't change.
So definitely not, aside from the unlikely event I could get my head preserved (likely questionable testing). Then again I know in all likelihood that wouldn't work, so I'm not sure getting a mention in some niche Wikipedia article would be the same as being remembered.
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I will write a blog complaining about copper prices. If my sources are correct I will be remembered forever.
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Ok that's actually an interesting use of AI. Train on only media from that time period. This is Daniel, from the year 1400. Tell me about the Catholic Church
This is basically how the persona AIs work. Some of them are focused on an individual, others are trained on a group of individuals.
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They will if I eat the Mona Lisa
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We'll be all just data left. Unless someone really bored finds something amusing about certain data entry about somebody, no not really.
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Is that even human tho?
Like the scientist who invented it will say its human, but from an ontology perspective, you can't ever be sure about that. That could just be killing you and copying your brain.
No way in hell I'm gonna "upload" my brain. It's suicide. Star trek teleporters are murder machines.
Why not? It has the thoughts, feelings, memories, and personality of a human. What else is a human? A physical body? Does, then, losong one's leg male one less human?
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Someone will be remembered. It's very unlikely to be me, unless human lifespans get a lot longer, which TBF they probably will.
Gorbachev will probably still be famous at some point after 3025, let alone 2625, although he might be forgotten and then popularised in between.
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Gonna be awkward as fuck if there is an afterlife and you run into OP after you both expire.
The afterlife being on Lemmy isn't the worst thing I can think of.
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Or be a really shitty copper merchant
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yeah, weird random chance makes a huge difference. Otzi was probably well known, but only hyper-regionally. Lucy was basically just an unusually smart animal, and that was millions of years ago.
And just because you're forgotten for a bit doesn't mean you won't come back into style.
Hmm. So if you want 15 minutes of fame a long time from now, what's some weird easter egg you can leave?
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Tradition is just peer pressure from dead people.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Sure, but what if the dead people are right? Statistically, they will be some share of the time.
The catch is that that goes for all the various disagreeing traditions. Putting priority on your own is sus.
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Yeah, weird random chance makes a huge difference. Otzi was probably well known, but only hyper-regionally. Lucy was basically just an unusually smart animal, and that was millions of years ago.
And just because you're forgotten for a bit doesn't mean you won't come back into style.
Hmm. So if you want 15 minutes of fame a long time from now, what's some weird easter egg you can leave?
Buttplug
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People might be if you eat the Mona Lisa.
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Buttplug
wrote last edited by [email protected]Archeologists actually dig up a lot of sex toys, believe it or not. That won't get you noticed.
A time capsule with something that nobody else will think to preserve might do it. Way too many preserve things the future is actually meh about. I actually wonder if a weird data footprint might be even better at this point. Like, if you filled out some official form thousands of times just for fun, and someone a long time from now is doing analysis and turns it into a meme.
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Archeologists actually dig up a lot of sex toys, believe it or not. That won't get you noticed.
A time capsule with something that nobody else will think to preserve might do it. Way too many preserve things the future is actually meh about. I actually wonder if a weird data footprint might be even better at this point. Like, if you filled out some official form thousands of times just for fun, and someone a long time from now is doing analysis and turns it into a meme.
What sort of forms about buttplugs do we have?
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Not me.
But from this echo chamber, it surely seems like the current us president will live in infamy. Think about online debates over who was worst president ever: now it’s clear. And if he truly is accelerating the fall of the American century, then yes, he’ll be taught about ins cho for centuries to come
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I mean, I'm sure you can name a half dozen or so people from the 1400s. I highly doubt anyone will remember me personally as one of those half dozen people, but I'm fairly certain that with the advances in technology the average people of the year 2625 will be dimly aware of closer to a dozen people alive today.
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Remember in what capacity? I don't think any of our (users in this thread) names will be a part of conversation or on anyone's mind in any meaningful capacity. I do believe that digital storage is getting better and that our names and information about us will still probably exist somewhere in 600 years. So maybe somewhere someone might see your name. But that's very different than "remembering", you know?
