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  3. Do you ever revise your upvotes for a particular sub-thread/conversant when you get the sense they are either bad-faith or do not have sufficient knowledge to justify their participation or comments?

Do you ever revise your upvotes for a particular sub-thread/conversant when you get the sense they are either bad-faith or do not have sufficient knowledge to justify their participation or comments?

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  • A [email protected]

    No because when I upvote someone it usually means I agree with their point. Disagreeing later doesn't change the initial agreement.

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    Even if it was manipulative or disingenuous?

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      Even if it was manipulative or disingenuous?

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      If I agree with their point, again, I don't care if I later find reasons or points to disagree on something different. It will not make me waste my time adjusting upvotes. Common ground is very important.

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        My up/down votes gets as much attention as their importance warrants. None at all.

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          Idk, it feels a lot of conversation about difficult to grasp topics are followed by a lot of Dunning-Kruger comments, even here on lemmy. Sometimes it's about related topics that a person know, so their comments seems reasonable, but after a search or a harder look, I stop upvoting or I can even downvote their comment, but sometimes I just ignore if I don't even remember the original conversation.

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          • R [email protected]

            Sometimes. I might get halfway through the comments and see that someone has shared something from their post history that paints them in a different light.

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            Or if they add an edit whining about downvotes

            Edit: DOWNVOTES? REALLY? For speaking the objective truth?

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            • L [email protected]

              Or if they add an edit whining about downvotes

              Edit: DOWNVOTES? REALLY? For speaking the objective truth?

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              I upvoted this assuming the edit was humor, don't you dare prove me wrong!

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                If later text shows that my initial reading was incorrect due to missing context or because I misread their starting point, yeah. For example, if something starts off sounding positive but context shows it is actually a dogwhistle I had not come across before I will go back and correct my votes. It rarely takes even a minute to fix a dozen or so in a chain.

                It isn't so much that I think my individual votes matter, but because I don't like knowing I gave a positive interactions with that thing.

                Same thing if I read something as a negative and find out I was wrong, gonna flip those to upvotes!

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                • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                  I upvoted this assuming the edit was humor, don't you dare prove me wrong!

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                  Le thanks Le kind le stranger. Many updoots to you and your clan, m’trilby

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                    #15

                    If I think the content is a net positive for Lemmy you get a upvote, even if I disagree, even if I don't like you.

                    So that means even if someone later reveals themselves to be an asshat, they are still adding to Lemmy's ecosystem and get to keep their upvotes.

                    Update: but I'm not a saint, if someone is downvoting me I'll downvote them right back

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                    • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                      If later text shows that my initial reading was incorrect due to missing context or because I misread their starting point, yeah. For example, if something starts off sounding positive but context shows it is actually a dogwhistle I had not come across before I will go back and correct my votes. It rarely takes even a minute to fix a dozen or so in a chain.

                      It isn't so much that I think my individual votes matter, but because I don't like knowing I gave a positive interactions with that thing.

                      Same thing if I read something as a negative and find out I was wrong, gonna flip those to upvotes!

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                      If context is really needed to identify something as a dogwhistle, isn't it already an ineffective utility?
                      I'm not doubting you at all--I know next to nothing about any honest dogwhistles, but I'm always curious to know how people avoid the feeling that of paranoia in these instances--how can you be positive you aren't just yielding to a fear of some sort?

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                        If context is really needed to identify something as a dogwhistle, isn't it already an ineffective utility?
                        I'm not doubting you at all--I know next to nothing about any honest dogwhistles, but I'm always curious to know how people avoid the feeling that of paranoia in these instances--how can you be positive you aren't just yielding to a fear of some sort?

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                        Dogwhistles are for the in group to show solidarity. Those outside not recognizing the dogwhistle or having a hard time proving it is a dogwhistle is the entire purpose.

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                          I don't often change upvotes. Sometimes I will go back and upvote things after I better understood the poster's point.

                          Downvotes tho ... I review my downvotes at lemvotes.org. I haven't changed many, but I do reconsider them.

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                          • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                            Dogwhistles are for the in group to show solidarity. Those outside not recognizing the dogwhistle or having a hard time proving it is a dogwhistle is the entire purpose.

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                            I hear you ...

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                              Le thanks Le kind le stranger. Many updoots to you and your clan, m’trilby

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                              Ah a fellow haberdasher #tips-lady-fedora

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