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You're not alone: This email from Google's Gemini team is concerning

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  • H [email protected]

    Nextcloud sucks in many ways, but it is functional and works for me.

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    I use it, too. Never had any problems with it.

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      minds well

      /c/boneappletea

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      People say this so commonly where I'm from. I was never aware that this is not the correct way to say it.

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      • tattorack@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

        MitID is hard-required to sign into anything government or personal information required. Previously people would be handed a key-card (a white, fold-out card with a bunch of numbers on it. The numbers were one-time use, so the card would eventually run out, requiring a replacement after a few months).

        These key-cards have been completely phased out. Now there is the MitID app or a key-device that is almost impossible to get (you'll basically have to prove that you don't have/can't use a smart phone).

        The MitID app has almost no features at all. It's specifically used for authentication. You log into the gooberment website or bank website, then a encrypted, constantly changing QR code pops up. You open the MitID app on your phone, scan the QR code, and then you gain access.

        This is all run through the private security company the Danish government has hired, called "NETS".

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        Something must have changed since I got my physical code display then, because I simply went to their webpage and ordered a free code display device a while ago.
        https://www.mitid.dk/bestil-mitid-identifikationsmiddel/

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        • J [email protected]

          Well, in this example, the information provided by the AI was simply wrong. If it had done the traditional search method of pointing to the organization's website where they had the hours listed, it would have worked fine.

          This idea that "we're all entitled to our opinion" is nonsense. That's for when you're a child and the topic is what flavor Jelly Bean you like. It's not for like policy or things that matter. You can't just "it's my opinion" your way through "this algorithm is O(n^2) but I like it better than O(n) so I'm going to use it for my big website". Or more on topic, you can't use it for "these results are wrong but I like them better"

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          Traditional search often is also wrong, showing some 3rd party website or a link farm.

          With AI search I get a summary AND the result list, so I have more info to make a decision.

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            Traditional search often is also wrong, showing some 3rd party website or a link farm.

            With AI search I get a summary AND the result list, so I have more info to make a decision.

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            Well, yes, Google has been becoming shittier for years as they prioritize ads and fail to deal with SEO slop. You have to know what's a good source, but that was true even when we were doing research in libraries.

            The AI summary is making the problem worse. The information it provides is not trustworthy. It also deprives site owners from traffic. It's really bad on like every metric.

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            • C [email protected]

              Just searched degoogle in Lemmy

              https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected]

              There are levels to it. The advanced level is using a custom Android ROM for your phone that has no Google play services/apps on it and that'll depend on what's available for your phone from community ROM makers. You can see if any of these support your phone or plan any future phone of yours around these

              https://itsfoss.com/android-distributions-roms/

              An easier first step is just starting with non-Google apps. You can start with replacing Google apps like replace Maps with Organic Maps or something similar. Replace Gmail with something like Proton Mail. Same with calendar and cloud storage. Proton has alternatives. They even have an okay Google docs feature. Use a different search engine like duckduckgo rather than Google.

              F-droid as an app store. Instead of Google authenticator use Aegis. Instead of Chrome use Firefox or a fork of it.

              It's difficult so a process over time of lessening dependency on Google applications

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              But what about banking apps and surch?

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              • N [email protected]

                Android is Linux… sure.

                But it’s not what anyone means when they say they want a Linux phone.

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                .

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                • K [email protected]

                  People say this so commonly where I'm from. I was never aware that this is not the correct way to say it.

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                  People say it everywhere, but it’s “might as well”.

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                  • M [email protected]

                    I have a Pixel phone im bout to throw in the river

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                    I can't bring myself to use a Pixel because I don't trust Google-everything. I have so much to say, and yet I've said it a thousand times already. So I'm just gonna sigh.

                    And yes, I know I'm on Android either way.

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                    • H [email protected]

                      Why not throw graphene or another alternative on it (if supported) instead of turning it into e-waste?

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                      Isn't graphene left for dead because of Google being a bunch of dildos?

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                        But what about banking apps and surch?

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                        I'd imagine you can do everything on the website, which can likely be made into an 'app' on Firefox via the "Add to Home screen" option.

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                        • J [email protected]

                          Well, yes, Google has been becoming shittier for years as they prioritize ads and fail to deal with SEO slop. You have to know what's a good source, but that was true even when we were doing research in libraries.

                          The AI summary is making the problem worse. The information it provides is not trustworthy. It also deprives site owners from traffic. It's really bad on like every metric.

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                          The AI summary is additive, I don't see how it makes it worse. I find it useful to save time and it's right in most cases, if I need something of vital importance (like the opening time for a shop) I don't use search results anyway, I go to maps where I expect to find a link to their official website (not trusting the opening hours on maps either).

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                            Isn't graphene left for dead because of Google being a bunch of dildos?

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                            There are ways they can work around it, but their lead developer was drafted into their country's military. Ultimately, they're going to have to make their own phone, and it looks like they're making plans to do that.

                            For now, it's fine.

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                            • I [email protected]

                              But what about banking apps and surch?

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                              That is an issue that I imagine only being solved with a larger user base that banks don't feel like they can ignore anymore

                              As the other guy mentioned, the website. All these apps are usually web wrappers anyways or some sort of cross platform software dev framework that does web/mobile so the website is usually pretty much the same as the apps

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                                The AI summary is additive, I don't see how it makes it worse. I find it useful to save time and it's right in most cases, if I need something of vital importance (like the opening time for a shop) I don't use search results anyway, I go to maps where I expect to find a link to their official website (not trusting the opening hours on maps either).

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                                I don't think it saves time on net if you have to read it and then go verify it anyway. Might as well go directly to the more trustworthy source in the first place! And if you don't care if your answer is correct, why even search? Just make something up.

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                                  I don't think it saves time on net if you have to read it and then go verify it anyway. Might as well go directly to the more trustworthy source in the first place! And if you don't care if your answer is correct, why even search? Just make something up.

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                                  It's just more convenient. I'm not usually Googling if a mushroom is poisonous, I'm Googling how to get the length of an array in python or something similar. If it doesn't work, I come back and look at the second result, which happens less than once a week.

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                                    Laughs in eu

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                                    Laughs in degoogled android

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                                    • S [email protected]

                                      Have you a link? This sounds like I would need root?

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                                      You just need developer mode enabled

                                      https://github.com/Universal-Debloater-Alliance/universal-android-debloater-next-generation

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                                        Laughs in degoogled android

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                                        Cries in non-eu, non-degoogled android

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                                          I have a Pixel phone im bout to throw in the river

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                                          boo! custom roms!

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