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U.S. Tariffs Make Xi Jinping’s Day

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    https://archive.ph/EaAvI

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      Mr. Xi and his Communist comrades have long believed the West is weak, divided and in retreat. He will see this week as confirmation, and he won’t have to do much to exploit those divisions.

      Someone call the burn unit.

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        "Oh no, why would he do that? Oh golly we can't handle all the new trade deals coming our way, it's so burdensome stop Oh geeze of golly." - Xi Jinping on his way to the bank

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          Mr. Xi and his Communist comrades have long believed the West is weak, divided and in retreat. He will see this week as confirmation, and he won’t have to do much to exploit those divisions.

          Someone call the burn unit.

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          Nobody symbolises Western decline more than Trump.

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            Nobody symbolises Western decline more than Trump.

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            The amazing part is that he has been the ultimate symbol of Western decline and a personification of the USA's dark Id his entire fucking life and still he somehow got elected twice.

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              Almost like capitalism that isn't constantly propped up is destined to fail.

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                The amazing part is that he has been the ultimate symbol of Western decline and a personification of the USA's dark Id his entire fucking life and still he somehow got elected twice.

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                But... the swamp...

                Proceeds to elect Darth Shreck for a second term.

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                  This is the stupidest article I've read about the tariffs, and that's saying something because I've read some doozies.

                  The author makes it sound like the US and the rest of the world were building a coalition to take on Chinese control of the global economy, before Trump's tariffs came along and ruined everything. That's horse shit.

                  The article even mentions Vietnam specifically. Do they not know that Vietnam is also a Marxist-Leninist state? Vietnam has taken many cues from China. Vietnam is trying to become a manufacturing hub, similar to China, and the relationship that Vietnam has been building with the US is one of trade that is similar the relationship the US has with China: they (China/Vietnam) make the stuff, we (the US) buy the stuff.

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                    "Oh no, why would he do that? Oh golly we can't handle all the new trade deals coming our way, it's so burdensome stop Oh geeze of golly." - Xi Jinping on his way to the bank

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                    Xi when he goes to bed at night:
                    Hehehe I'm winning, and all I have to do, is not to be a total idiot. Playing against Trump is like playing in super easy mode.

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                      This is the stupidest article I've read about the tariffs, and that's saying something because I've read some doozies.

                      The author makes it sound like the US and the rest of the world were building a coalition to take on Chinese control of the global economy, before Trump's tariffs came along and ruined everything. That's horse shit.

                      The article even mentions Vietnam specifically. Do they not know that Vietnam is also a Marxist-Leninist state? Vietnam has taken many cues from China. Vietnam is trying to become a manufacturing hub, similar to China, and the relationship that Vietnam has been building with the US is one of trade that is similar the relationship the US has with China: they (China/Vietnam) make the stuff, we (the US) buy the stuff.

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                      That’s horse shit.

                      No it's not, The US and allies totally control WTO, and China was only allowed trade on WTO terms after they accepted to follow the WTO standards, basically designed by USA like for instance respecting copyright and patents. Chinese foreign trade was absolutely controlled by the "west", and American politicians have openly stated how they need to prevent China from expanding their influence. Which obviously regards both economy and politics.

                      Regarding Vietnam I've heard many places that Vietnam absolutely want to remain/increase independence from China, and they worry China has too much power in the region. So the phrase "In Asia, countries such as Vietnam hoped expanding trade with the U.S. would allow them to wriggle out from under Beijing’s thumb." Seems justified to me from what I've heard.

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                        If your main geopolitical competitor runs headfirst into a brick wall, that is indeed a good day, no doubting.

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                          Almost like capitalism that isn't constantly propped up is destined to fail.

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                          Capitalism is not really a political system, it's an economic model embraced by basically all political systems except communism.
                          Almost every country on earth is capitalist in some way to some degree, even most communist systems.
                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism

                          characterized by private property

                          This characteristic has only been seriously challenged in communist systems, and while communist systems that do that have failed often, Capitalism remains by far the most successful economic model.

                          This may change at some point in the future, when work is no longer necessary.
                          But regulating capitalism according to political desires is the way to go. Currently abandoning capitalism is nothing but a pipedream.

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                            That’s horse shit.

                            No it's not, The US and allies totally control WTO, and China was only allowed trade on WTO terms after they accepted to follow the WTO standards, basically designed by USA like for instance respecting copyright and patents. Chinese foreign trade was absolutely controlled by the "west", and American politicians have openly stated how they need to prevent China from expanding their influence. Which obviously regards both economy and politics.

                            Regarding Vietnam I've heard many places that Vietnam absolutely want to remain/increase independence from China, and they worry China has too much power in the region. So the phrase "In Asia, countries such as Vietnam hoped expanding trade with the U.S. would allow them to wriggle out from under Beijing’s thumb." Seems justified to me from what I've heard.

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                            The US and allies control WTO, and China was only allowed trade on WTO terms after they accepted to follow the WTO standards, basically designed by USA

                            That means nothing, anymore. Those standards are meaningless, China holds most of cards, now. Any attempts to reign in China have been half hearted at best, and often undermined by the US itself. As tough as people have tried to sound in their rhetoric about China, the fact is American corporations and consumers continue to do business with them because it's just too good of a deal for them.

                            and American politicians have openly stated how they need to prevent China from expanding their influence.

                            Well, they have failed, spectacularly, and that was true LONG before even Trump's first term, let alone these tariffs.

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