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    Sad but true.
    (TikTok screencap)

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      Sad but true.
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      This is why most Americans say they are Canadian, when traveling.

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        You shouldn't. People are more likely to be interested in who you are as a person than your country's politics. You might get some negative bias, true. But you can work pass that.

        I'm from the country of Orban, and I do feel shame sometimes saying that. But I have rarely experienced anything more than some cold looks.

        The everyday folks who support a dictator tend no to travels abroad. People outside your country are not exposed to them 🙂

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          You shouldn't. People are more likely to be interested in who you are as a person than your country's politics. You might get some negative bias, true. But you can work pass that.

          I'm from the country of Orban, and I do feel shame sometimes saying that. But I have rarely experienced anything more than some cold looks.

          The everyday folks who support a dictator tend no to travels abroad. People outside your country are not exposed to them 🙂

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          My wife openly says she left Hungary because of the dictatorship, nobody has ever reacted to her negatively for it.

          The impression I get from most Hungarians I've met is that if you can speak another language then getting out is the smart move.

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            You shouldn't. People are more likely to be interested in who you are as a person than your country's politics. You might get some negative bias, true. But you can work pass that.

            I'm from the country of Orban, and I do feel shame sometimes saying that. But I have rarely experienced anything more than some cold looks.

            The everyday folks who support a dictator tend no to travels abroad. People outside your country are not exposed to them 🙂

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            US ex pat living in Europe: 100% agree. I've actually not had a single person be mean or negative about where I'm from. Either jokes about how it's going or more likely, curiosity about how things actually are.

            It's just like if you meet a Russian who left. I would hope you'd have the nuance to think "oh, they escaped, fantastic for them and I'm so sorry about their country" not "oh they must love Putin"

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              US ex pat living in Europe: 100% agree. I've actually not had a single person be mean or negative about where I'm from. Either jokes about how it's going or more likely, curiosity about how things actually are.

              It's just like if you meet a Russian who left. I would hope you'd have the nuance to think "oh, they escaped, fantastic for them and I'm so sorry about their country" not "oh they must love Putin"

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              I met a Russian student studying abroad who was very intent on staying out of Russia as much as possible because he's aware of how messed up things are. Had very a good sense of humor. His jokes about Putin and the Russian government would be enough to get people there thrown in jail.

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                US ex pat living in Europe: 100% agree. I've actually not had a single person be mean or negative about where I'm from. Either jokes about how it's going or more likely, curiosity about how things actually are.

                It's just like if you meet a Russian who left. I would hope you'd have the nuance to think "oh, they escaped, fantastic for them and I'm so sorry about their country" not "oh they must love Putin"

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                It's just like if you meet a Russian who left. I would hope you'd have the nuance to think "oh, they escaped, fantastic for them and I'm so sorry about their country" not "oh they must love Putin"

                Unfortunately, as a Polish person, reality proved to me over and over and over again that in this particular scenario, the latter is just most often the case.

                Russian people in general have special love for strong men in power. Make no mistake, they somehow even managed to turn Marxist ideas into authoritarianism and it made a massive damage to the international perception of the idea of communism. To this day general populace im my post-communist country, when you say socialism, they see Stalin.

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                  I don't bring it up but if people ask me I say I'm from San Francisco. I'm close enough, like 30 miles away. I feel like I avoid some judgement by doing so but idk.

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                    Any local who can't separate you from the corrupt billionaires who run your country isn't worth your time no matter where you are. Anyone who would lie to another person about where they're from because they can't separate themselves from the corrupt billionaires who run their country isn't worth my time no matter where you're from.

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                      Any local who can't separate you from the corrupt billionaires who run your country isn't worth your time no matter where you are. Anyone who would lie to another person about where they're from because they can't separate themselves from the corrupt billionaires who run their country isn't worth my time no matter where you're from.

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                      Brother, do you think any country is afforded that level of differentiation by the common people? People probably know that not literally every single american supports Trump, but they will still consider any american to be "from that place" first and foremost until proven otherwise.

                      I am german myself and most certainly not aligned with our current government, but you bet i have to justify myself to others anyway.

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                        Any local who can't separate you from the corrupt billionaires who run your country isn't worth your time no matter where you are. Anyone who would lie to another person about where they're from because they can't separate themselves from the corrupt billionaires who run their country isn't worth my time no matter where you're from.

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                        Tell that to the countless brown people your country has tortured in the last decades you simpleton

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                          Any local who can't separate you from the corrupt billionaires who run your country isn't worth your time no matter where you are. Anyone who would lie to another person about where they're from because they can't separate themselves from the corrupt billionaires who run their country isn't worth my time no matter where you're from.

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                          Sounds like an expectation of special treatment that many Americans don't even afford to people from other countries lol.

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                            This is why most Americans say they are Canadian, when traveling.

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                            Most American tourists definitely don't do this.

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                              Any local who can't separate you from the corrupt billionaires who run your country isn't worth your time no matter where you are. Anyone who would lie to another person about where they're from because they can't separate themselves from the corrupt billionaires who run their country isn't worth my time no matter where you're from.

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                              Yeah. Also, like, I've never met locals who are like that. I'm American. I travel pretty frequently. It is obvious from my accent, and also from the fact that I tell people I'm American when they ask. And also due to the confused look in my eye when someone tells me the temperature. I've never run into anyone who openly hates Americans visiting their country.

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                                Most American tourists definitely don't do this.

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                                obviously I can't say anything to actual statistics, but I can provide anecdotal evidence of this one time back in Europe when some very clearly American tourists were claiming to be Canadian, and the Canadians and Americans in our group were just kind of side eyeing them from a few tables over

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                                  This is why most Americans say they are Canadian, when traveling.

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                                  That's why I picked up a second language. We rarely speak English when traveling abroad now.

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                                    Sad but true.
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                                    Yeah, sad but true

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                                      How I feel as a citizen of a first world country.

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                                        You shouldn't. People are more likely to be interested in who you are as a person than your country's politics. You might get some negative bias, true. But you can work pass that.

                                        I'm from the country of Orban, and I do feel shame sometimes saying that. But I have rarely experienced anything more than some cold looks.

                                        The everyday folks who support a dictator tend no to travels abroad. People outside your country are not exposed to them 🙂

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                                        People are more likely to be interested in who you are as a person than your country's politics.

                                        The current political state of the US is just the icing on the shit cake. When I was a kid traveling abroad with my parents 30 years ago, Americans were considered fat, ignorant, and egotistical. That they expected the rest of the world to speak English, accept USD everywhere, and give them special treatment. That they were loud, obnoxious, ignorant, and rude.

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                                          Yeah. Also, like, I've never met locals who are like that. I'm American. I travel pretty frequently. It is obvious from my accent, and also from the fact that I tell people I'm American when they ask. And also due to the confused look in my eye when someone tells me the temperature. I've never run into anyone who openly hates Americans visiting their country.

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                                          Same experience here, and when I traveled as an immigrant, everyone was always very cordial and welcoming to me (which is more than I can say for the immigrant experience in America). I was in Brazil during Bolsonaro and found many lefties who appreciated the acknowledgement that they were still there working hard despite their country's leadership (one of them got murdered by his father over politics). I was in Chile during the student riots under Pinera too and was welcomed by the leftists in the street throwing bottle bombs and the cops in riot gear with water cannons. The average person everywhere is involved in a continuous global struggle for human rights, education, economic equity, etc, and they recognize your empathy no matter what flavor of billionaire is currently running the country.

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