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Starving child in Gaza was killed minutes after receiving aid, former US military contractor says

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    “One of the contractors…was an American that did speak Hebrew. He said, ‘Hey. He just told the snipers…to take these kids out',” Aguilar said.

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      I’m not taking the blame for this one it’s all IDF. A significant proportion of the general population have vocalised their disgust. At this point it’s those pulling the trigger and their bosses who are at fault. No one else wants this apart from the IDF

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      We voted for pro israeli leaders sorry we still have a certsin degree of responssbility

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        The next line in the article sums up the situation though:

        "Then he was shot at with pepper spray, tear gas, stun grenades and bullets shot at his feet [and then] in the air, and he runs away scared, and the IDF [Israeli army] were shooting at the crowd.

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          The primary enabler of Israeli crimes is the American public. Not every single person of course, from my time living in the US, both the local far right and centre right are complicit.

          Realisticly, the best way forward would be to end the recognition of the Israel colonialist regime, ban all economic, logistical and communication links and start catching and prosecuting war criminals.

          But for most countries, this is not possible, since America will annihilate you economically if you take such actions.

          And the responsibility for this lies with the American public. And this includes the centre right.

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          So, both of the political parties?

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            Just imagine the outrage if Hamas had done this, and it would be rightly so. But the other way around? This is how Palestinians are being treated, subhuman.

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              “One of the contractors…was an American that did speak Hebrew. He said, ‘Hey. He just told the snipers…to take these kids out',” Aguilar said.

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              These people need to watch their backs and stay safe so they can testify at some point. Hopefully.

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                The next line in the article sums up the situation though:

                "Then he was shot at with pepper spray, tear gas, stun grenades and bullets shot at his feet [and then] in the air, and he runs away scared, and the IDF [Israeli army] were shooting at the crowd.

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                Jesus fucking Christ... Monsters

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                  The Judaism that I was indoctrinated into without choice as a child taught me not to murder. Fuck everything about this. Fuck Israel.

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                    We voted for pro israeli leaders sorry we still have a certsin degree of responssbility

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                    Focusing on the culpability of individual voters is just reputation-washing for Israel.

                    It's like stepping over massive fossil fuel companies to blame someone who put plastic wrap in the trash instead of the recycle bin. This is not how to get people to stay engaged with politics between elections, and actually work together to do something now, which is how individual voters can actually impact the situation. Don't instill hopelessness by focusing on the blame of those so far from direct culpability.

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                      Focusing on the culpability of individual voters is just reputation-washing for Israel.

                      It's like stepping over massive fossil fuel companies to blame someone who put plastic wrap in the trash instead of the recycle bin. This is not how to get people to stay engaged with politics between elections, and actually work together to do something now, which is how individual voters can actually impact the situation. Don't instill hopelessness by focusing on the blame of those so far from direct culpability.

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                      It's like stepping over massive fossil fuel companies to blame someone who put plastic wrap in the trash instead of the recycle bin

                      It's like supporting those companies, voting for politicians who support them then deny your responsability for that. We are all responsible to certain degree. I never shifted the blame and i never said we are as bad as thr idf terrorists commiting the war crimes or the governments who are actually selling weapons to israel

                      actually work together to do something now

                      That's why i keep promoting bds

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                        So, both of the political parties?

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                        Both far right and centre right.

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                          It's like stepping over massive fossil fuel companies to blame someone who put plastic wrap in the trash instead of the recycle bin

                          It's like supporting those companies, voting for politicians who support them then deny your responsability for that. We are all responsible to certain degree. I never shifted the blame and i never said we are as bad as thr idf terrorists commiting the war crimes or the governments who are actually selling weapons to israel

                          actually work together to do something now

                          That's why i keep promoting bds

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                          It's like supporting those companies, voting for politicians who support them then deny your responsability for that.

                          It really isn't, particularly for those of us who have been getting yelled at for doing exactly not that, and being told that not having full-throated support for Harris when we were specifically told that the campaign didn't need our support and locked out of speaking up. For those who have been told that our lack of support is why Trump got elected and Palestinians are being killed. Collapsing the entirety of electoral politics into "we voted for this" is harmfully reductive. We cannot keep telling ourselves that no matter what we do while working together, since the overall result was this it is our fault. It's literally ignoring the actions of political opponents to blame ourselves no matter the outcome.

                          Placing a blanket blame on voters for this is still just electoralism. Voting should be one political expression of many; reducing everything down to the outcome of an election--even if you're blaming just those who voted--doesn't build political movements.

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                            Jesus fucking Christ... Monsters

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                            Sadistic fucking psychopaths. I literally can't wrap my head around this level of cruelty. How can you even live with yourself, fucking hell, how do you sleep at night after doing something like this? I can't fathom hating anyone bad enough to actually enjoy watching them suffer like that, it's just... I don't even have words to express how disgusting and sad this whole situation is...

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                              The Judaism that I was indoctrinated into without choice as a child taught me not to murder. Fuck everything about this. Fuck Israel.

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                              Literally one of the 10 commandments.

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                                Just imagine the outrage if Hamas had done this, and it would be rightly so. But the other way around? This is how Palestinians are being treated, subhuman.

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                                There's plenty of outrage from people who don't shut off their brains.

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                                  The majority of Israeli's who support the genocide have forgotten their history. Any student of history knows it has a funny way of repeating itself, time and time again.

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                                  Don't let Israel appropriate the Holocaust. The vast majority of Israelis are not, and have nothing to do with, Holocaust survivors. In the first place most Israeli Jews are of Middle Eastern or Eastern European descent (the latter having mostly immigrated in the interwar or post-Cold War period).

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                                    Don't let Israel appropriate the Holocaust. The vast majority of Israelis are not, and have nothing to do with, Holocaust survivors. In the first place most Israeli Jews are of Middle Eastern or Eastern European descent (the latter having mostly immigrated in the interwar or post-Cold War period).

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                                    Unfortunately Israels actions are much like any extremists these days, very loud, very violent, throwing the victim card willy nilly and calling everything antisemetic. I remember when 911 happened and Muslims everywhere had to go out of their way to prove they are not extremists. There is crickets from Jewish leaders across the world on Israels actions.

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                                      Unfortunately Israels actions are much like any extremists these days, very loud, very violent, throwing the victim card willy nilly and calling everything antisemetic. I remember when 911 happened and Muslims everywhere had to go out of their way to prove they are not extremists. There is crickets from Jewish leaders across the world on Israels actions.

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                                      Really? I think it's more that they don't get the social media and news traction that outrageous shit like their (minority extremist) opposition gets. Folks like Lander and Sanders regularly speak out about Israeli atrocities. Myriad organizations like JVP, INN, and more are among the most active organized voices trying to get this shit to stop. Bunds are popping up literally all over the world and fundamentally anti-Zionist and most stand in solidarity with Palestine. This narrative that Jews are silently condoning Israeli ethnosupremecist fascism is a made up one that serves only to benefit a minority of extremists and Zionists.

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                                        Really? I think it's more that they don't get the social media and news traction that outrageous shit like their (minority extremist) opposition gets. Folks like Lander and Sanders regularly speak out about Israeli atrocities. Myriad organizations like JVP, INN, and more are among the most active organized voices trying to get this shit to stop. Bunds are popping up literally all over the world and fundamentally anti-Zionist and most stand in solidarity with Palestine. This narrative that Jews are silently condoning Israeli ethnosupremecist fascism is a made up one that serves only to benefit a minority of extremists and Zionists.

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                                        I guess it must be lack of media coverage, obviously I'm talking about leaders and not the general public, who have been very vocal about it.

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                                          Shooting a kid. That's barbaric and unholy. They should be in hell if it existed.

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