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PSA: In case you were experiencing problems with feddit.org, this is because a post from feddit reached the front page of Hacker News.

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  • M [email protected]

    Wow sign my comment!

    Good post though. Of all of them to get noticed, thats a good one πŸ™‚

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    #29

    I signed it with an upvote. You're welcome.

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    • T [email protected]

      It's been somewhere on reddit as well today

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      #30

      Sure did, thanks: https://www.reddit.com/r/degoogle/comments/1nif9qu/linux_phones_are_more_important_now_than_ever/

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      • T [email protected]

        Its just based in Germany

        Move the server. Easy improvement over supporting genocide. They won't tho.

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        #31

        Sorry no offense but thats stupid.

        Oh Yeah Lets just move our whole infrastructure to another Server in a different Country with different laws and jurisdictions so people can hate on israel!

        Bro israel aint the focal Point in their life πŸ₯€

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          #32

          I have no idea how to get my app to open the original article ( https://feddit.org/post/18353777 ) so I'll just mention here that I installed PostmarkedOS on my ancient Wileyfox Swift a few days ago.

          And while it was very exciting this particular setup was barely usable. I tried all the UI / DE options but only Phosh and KDE recognized touch inputs (so I could not do anything on Gnome and SXMO or whatever it is called). Phosh had some very weird problems with the onscreen keyboard and flickering menus and KDE had amazing graphical glitches (it really was quite something, I wish I had taken photos with another camera now) and sleep wasn't working even after the fixes from the wiki. I really wanna check it out on mever hardware at some point through, I think it's a really cool project:

          https://postmarketos.org/

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          • S [email protected]

            The post in question.

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            #33

            That's not a "post from feddit.org," that's a "post by a feddit.org user on a lemmy.ml community." It may be DDOSing feddit.org because that server's view of it is the link that happened to go viral, but there's no reason folks outside Lemmy couldn't view it on the server it's actually posted on, or some other third node like lemmy.world or whatever.

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            • M [email protected]

              Nice! I have a feeling that most of the fediverse dont use a whole lot of caching. I dont really enjoy some of the things cloudflare does, but it does do a good job with caching.

              Is Memcache still a thing? I remember using that for a LOT of older apps back in the day.

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              #34

              IMO what we need is a different sort of thing more like load-balancing than caching, where users from outside the Fediverse (i.e. who aren't logged in to the server whose URL they're trying to load and thus probably don't actually have a strong preference about which instance they actually view it from) get redirected to other instances to help spread out the load.

              There's no particular reason why the entirety of Hacker News and Reddit needs to be piling in to view this thing that was posted to [email protected] just because a feddit.org user happened to have been the one who wrote it (and possibly shared it).

              Posts and comments already have a chain icon for the URL of the view of them on the user's current server and a fediverse graph icon for the URL of them on the poster's home server, but maybe there needs to be a third icon for the lemmyverse link url or something like that.

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              • G [email protected]

                IMO what we need is a different sort of thing more like load-balancing than caching, where users from outside the Fediverse (i.e. who aren't logged in to the server whose URL they're trying to load and thus probably don't actually have a strong preference about which instance they actually view it from) get redirected to other instances to help spread out the load.

                There's no particular reason why the entirety of Hacker News and Reddit needs to be piling in to view this thing that was posted to [email protected] just because a feddit.org user happened to have been the one who wrote it (and possibly shared it).

                Posts and comments already have a chain icon for the URL of the view of them on the user's current server and a fediverse graph icon for the URL of them on the poster's home server, but maybe there needs to be a third icon for the lemmyverse link url or something like that.

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                #35

                Very interesting idea. Peertube already does this sorta. The p2p nature means the more traffic/servers, the less load the original instance has to push.

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                • M [email protected]

                  Very interesting idea. Peertube already does this sorta. The p2p nature means the more traffic/servers, the less load the original instance has to push.

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                  #36

                  Wasn't that the idea behind zeronet? I think zeronet is dead(?) now, but it was a fun concept.
                  https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet

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                    Wasn't that the idea behind zeronet? I think zeronet is dead(?) now, but it was a fun concept.
                    https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet

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                    #37

                    Interesting, never knew!

                    I recall https://www.gnunet.org but its been a LONG time since ive played around with it.

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                    • M [email protected]

                      Interesting, never knew!

                      I recall https://www.gnunet.org but its been a LONG time since ive played around with it.

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                      #38

                      I like I2p but it doesn't solve the problems that zeronet did.

                      Will have to look into gnunet though. Not sure what that does, or how.

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                      • T [email protected]

                        Its just based in Germany

                        Move the server. Easy improvement over supporting genocide. They won't tho.

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                        #39

                        The feddit.org server is in Austria. But that doesn't make any difference when (some of) the admins live in Germany. They could still get their homes raided by police.

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                        • T [email protected]

                          Fashy tech bros incoming...

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                          #40

                          I'll be honest, there's a lot of reasonable people on HackerNews. Not only tech bros.

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                          • G [email protected]

                            That's not a "post from feddit.org," that's a "post by a feddit.org user on a lemmy.ml community." It may be DDOSing feddit.org because that server's view of it is the link that happened to go viral, but there's no reason folks outside Lemmy couldn't view it on the server it's actually posted on, or some other third node like lemmy.world or whatever.

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                            #41

                            The original link ap_id corresponds to the author's instance.

                            [email protected] posts to [email protected]. The path the post will take is this:

                            User -> Author's instance -> Community's instance -> Notified to all other instances subscribed, to download from author's instance.


                            As for your other point, there is no good universal Lemmy linking thing for posts. communities and users have names that work on any instance, but there's no similar unique identifier for posts.

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                            • S [email protected]

                              I'll be honest, there's a lot of reasonable people on HackerNews. Not only tech bros.

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                              #42

                              I would agree in the past but in the last few years this site has doubled down on the silicon valley brand of techno-fascism and I just can't read the comments without losing faith in "hacker culture" at this point.

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                              • N [email protected]

                                I hate that it needs repeatedly saying, but its not. Its just based in Germany which has very draconian speech laws relating to Israel and the admins don't want to be arrested

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                                #43

                                Can confirm that Germany is cucked by fascists and only getting worse. AfD is on the rise and doesn't seem to be slowing down.

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                                • xylight@lemdro.idX [email protected]

                                  The original link ap_id corresponds to the author's instance.

                                  [email protected] posts to [email protected]. The path the post will take is this:

                                  User -> Author's instance -> Community's instance -> Notified to all other instances subscribed, to download from author's instance.


                                  As for your other point, there is no good universal Lemmy linking thing for posts. communities and users have names that work on any instance, but there's no similar unique identifier for posts.

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                                  #44

                                  As for your other point, there is no good universal Lemmy linking thing for posts.

                                  In another comment I mentioned that there's this lemmyverse link thing. From the way you phrased that I'm not sure if you don't know about it, or do know but just don't think it's good, but I think it's about halfway to being useful.

                                  What it needs to get the rest of the way is to:

                                  • default to some kind of load-balanced or at least round-robin instance selection instead of defaulting to the original instance of the link given, and
                                  • be built into the Lemmy UI(s) so that it's easy to grab a lemmyverse.link URL to share.
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