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For what it’s worth, as someone who graduated highschool in Utah (one of the shittest US states in terms of funding and education) I learned the recorder in Elementary school and was required to take a financial literacy class in highschool to graduate. True, that class taught now-useless skills like how to write a check, but it also taught me about 401Ks/Roth IRAs, how to file taxes, managing credit scores and lines of credit, mortgages and debt, budgeting, and a bunch of other skills besides. I’m not sure how standard this is across the US, but I can’t imagine it’s too uncommon given that it was a shitty small town high school in a deep red state. Hell, I’ve seen memes like this posted by people who graduated in my year and it always perplexes me because I know for a fact they had to take that class.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I had math, history, science, and English class with Spanish or French (one foreign language). None of those taught me anything as useful as your class.
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They did teach us financial literacy.
If you found it important as a reasonably intelligent adult you could teach yourself basic financial literacy in an afternoon.
I agree. A lot of people don't know where to start, though. And there is a lot of bad information out there.
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Education should inform us how to least get fucked by the state and capitalism.
You mean like teaching children the basics of musical theory and practice so they learn they can to enjoy life and create art without paying for it?
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yeah recorders sucked.... hey is that the ICQ flower? ah good memories...
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2 mins MS paint
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Music is far and away the more worthy subject.
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You mean like teaching children the basics of musical theory and practice so they learn they can to enjoy life and create art without paying for it?
Or like how to have enough money for food, shelter, and other essentials.
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Or like how to have enough money for food, shelter, and other essentials.
Obviously it's impossible to do both.
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Obviously it's impossible to do both.
Obviously children have a finite amount of time to study without impacting their own agency too much.
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You got a Yamaha? We got the semitransparent plastic blue ones.
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People will be complaining about percentages and fractions being taught instead of teaching how to do taxes or do a budget. Which leads to the conclusion that people are idiots and it doesn't matter what you teach them. Other people are not idiots and they use the skills they learnt doing exercises and homework for good stuff but also sometimes for taxes and budgeting.
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Obviously children have a finite amount of time to study without impacting their own agency too much.
If only education could be a lifelong endeavor instead of something to do until you're 18.
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Damned musicians!
How can ye exploit the workers if ye doon’t et yer meeeet!!
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If you’re wondering, Why recorders? — there are three reasons:
- They’re portable.
- Recorders in decent enough quality can be cheaply produced, so even low-income children get to play one. Compare that with a guitar where 30$ gets you a piece of wood that detunes as soon as you lay eyes on it. Not great for practicing.
- Recorders have an easily memorizable fingering scheme that allows you to quickly pick up the C Major scale. Compare this with a guitar where you need to remember for each string individually which frets have the notes of the scale.
You make these good points, but all I'm hearing is that Big Recorder is paying out public schools to keep making children buy and play them. Hot Cross Buns? More like Huge Con Bunkos! Thank you for your attention to this matter!!!
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I cast vicious mockery, Nat 20. Let's F'ckn go!
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People will be complaining about percentages and fractions being taught instead of teaching how to do taxes or do a budget. Which leads to the conclusion that people are idiots and it doesn't matter what you teach them. Other people are not idiots and they use the skills they learnt doing exercises and homework for good stuff but also sometimes for taxes and budgeting.
There is a cross section of smart people who only learned how to do school work and got straight As but failed to understand how that school work applies to real life.
I've been in classes with people who were in AP calculus have real difficulty in shop class trying to figure out how much square footage of whatever you needed. These are people who can figure out the area under a curve but fail to calculate a 20% tip.
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My guy, they're 6 to 8. It's not time to learn that mess
And what that would amount to would be another math class. Like, it was a few classes in like 8th grade math between algebra lessons.
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The number of times I have to explain to people here in California that are my age that they did in fact take financial literacy, or that they were in fact taught skills like what to do during pregnancy is unfortunately too high. Tons of people like to talk about what schools need without realizing that it has it and they just didn’t pay attention.
Totally agreed. I have often thought the same thing when people claim that schools need to teach critical thinking skills. Mine did.
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And I'm still good at it!
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People will be complaining about percentages and fractions being taught instead of teaching how to do taxes or do a budget. Which leads to the conclusion that people are idiots and it doesn't matter what you teach them. Other people are not idiots and they use the skills they learnt doing exercises and homework for good stuff but also sometimes for taxes and budgeting.
Which leads to the conclusion that people are idiots and it doesn’t matter what you teach them.
There's a joke, once you get to college, that freshman year is about unlearning all the crap you were taught in high school.
This isn't an issue of "stupid people" nearly so much as it is deliberately manipulated and propagandized people.
What they're taught matters immensely. And one of the more insidious lessons of the Western education system is that schools exist to Stack Rank students, in order to segregate the Smarties from the Dummies and sort the deserving from the undeserving.
