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Guitars are very hard to play for kids because the strings are so thin that they hurt after very few minutes.
That’s a better reason.
Also, longer fingers help with play and children don't have full sized hands yet.
That said, you could probably get away with ukeleles instead of recorders, if you were really insistent on string instruments.
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The number of times I have to explain to people here in California that are my age that they did in fact take financial literacy, or that they were in fact taught skills like what to do during pregnancy is unfortunately too high. Tons of people like to talk about what schools need without realizing that it has it and they just didn’t pay attention.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Tons of people like to talk about what schools need without realizing that it has it and they just didn’t pay attention.
A semester class that happened thirty years ago probably doesn't stick out in your memory beside the 20 years of Facebook memes pounding your brain like a mini gun.
A lot of people just repeat things uncritically because they've been listening to the crap on the radio or the Joe Rogan podcast or whatever for so long that it's drowned the native memories out.
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Music is far and away the more worthy subject.
...music teaches you to be a good person; financial literacy teaches you to be a tool...
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Am I the on,y one who never had to play a recorder?
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Looking back I'm actually confused why this was even a thing. Did Big Recorder have deals with schools to push this? Is Big Recorder a thing?
We only ever used them for like 3 weeks and then it was on to the next thing. Haven't touched it since.
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If you’re wondering, Why recorders? — there are three reasons:
- They’re portable.
- Recorders in decent enough quality can be cheaply produced, so even low-income children get to play one. Compare that with a guitar where 30$ gets you a piece of wood that detunes as soon as you lay eyes on it. Not great for practicing.
- Recorders have an easily memorizable fingering scheme that allows you to quickly pick up the C Major scale. Compare this with a guitar where you need to remember for each string individually which frets have the notes of the scale.
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These things put me off music for years. Maybe next time start us with an instrument that doesn’t sound like total shit in beginners hands and which stinks of antiseptic.
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Looking back I'm actually confused why this was even a thing. Did Big Recorder have deals with schools to push this? Is Big Recorder a thing?
We only ever used them for like 3 weeks and then it was on to the next thing. Haven't touched it since.
They're cheap to make and easy to play. They're an excellent instrument to start with because you don't need to know any technique to make a proper sound.
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Looking back I'm actually confused why this was even a thing. Did Big Recorder have deals with schools to push this? Is Big Recorder a thing?
We only ever used them for like 3 weeks and then it was on to the next thing. Haven't touched it since.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Answers in Progress made a (great) video about this:
why you were forced to learn the recorder in school
Highlight begins at 8:06.
There's a decent bit of history involved, going back to the Nazis in WW2.
It's not because it's cheap to manufacture, because it wasn't back in the day. It became cheaper because it grew popular. It was about unity and cultural identity.
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These things put me off music for years. Maybe next time start us with an instrument that doesn’t sound like total shit in beginners hands and which stinks of antiseptic.
What instrument doesn't sound like total shit in beginner's hands? A keyboard?
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What instrument doesn't sound like total shit in beginner's hands? A keyboard?
A guitar
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What instrument doesn't sound like total shit in beginner's hands? A keyboard?
Yep! Great example.
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What instrument doesn't sound like total shit in beginner's hands? A keyboard?
Guitar. Learn 3-4 chords and you can play half of the songs out there. Easy to begin with, hard to master.
Alternatively, Ukulele. Just 4 strings, and smaller, so more suitable for small children, though the chords seem to be more complicated.
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Facebook tier meme
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That is a flute. This is a recorder. It's just not the same putting it up there.
A recorder is a variety of flute known as a "fipple." But your point stands, some love to have a little fipple, while other's don't.
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Looking back I'm actually confused why this was even a thing. Did Big Recorder have deals with schools to push this? Is Big Recorder a thing?
We only ever used them for like 3 weeks and then it was on to the next thing. Haven't touched it since.
They weren't really teaching you how to play the recorder, they were teaching you how to read music. The recorder was just the cheapest, least complicated way to connect the notes you read to sounds you could hear.
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Yes yes, though I always imagined she had to take it apart because the parts you finger would definitely be a no-go.
The parts you finger can't easily be removed.
Oh you meant the flute, not the girl.
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This is a right wing meme
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The parts you finger can't easily be removed.
Oh you meant the flute, not the girl.
I'm glad someone took my bait
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Which leads to the conclusion that people are idiots and it doesn’t matter what you teach them.
There's a joke, once you get to college, that freshman year is about unlearning all the crap you were taught in high school.
This isn't an issue of "stupid people" nearly so much as it is deliberately manipulated and propagandized people.
What they're taught matters immensely. And one of the more insidious lessons of the Western education system is that schools exist to Stack Rank students, in order to segregate the Smarties from the Dummies and sort the deserving from the undeserving.
I was a bit rude here, true. And I don't love all the testing and grading. A lot of teaching up to around seventh or eighth grade is putting material in front of kids until it clicks.
But anyway, still a bunch of people will whine that they didn't learn this very unenjoyable, very specific thing in school while chastising schools for not being enjoyable enough. And chastising schools for teaching things that are the very basis of being able to figure out this very unenjoyable, very specific thing.
