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    Looking back I'm actually confused why this was even a thing. Did Big Recorder have deals with schools to push this? Is Big Recorder a thing?

    We only ever used them for like 3 weeks and then it was on to the next thing. Haven't touched it since.

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    #54

    Answers in Progress made a (great) video about this:

    why you were forced to learn the recorder in school

    Highlight begins at 8:06.

    There's a decent bit of history involved, going back to the Nazis in WW2.

    It's not because it's cheap to manufacture, because it wasn't back in the day. It became cheaper because it grew popular. It was about unity and cultural identity.

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      These things put me off music for years. Maybe next time start us with an instrument that doesn’t sound like total shit in beginners hands and which stinks of antiseptic.

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      What instrument doesn't sound like total shit in beginner's hands? A keyboard?

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      • kogasa@programming.devK [email protected]

        What instrument doesn't sound like total shit in beginner's hands? A keyboard?

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        A guitar

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        • kogasa@programming.devK [email protected]

          What instrument doesn't sound like total shit in beginner's hands? A keyboard?

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          Yep! Great example.

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            What instrument doesn't sound like total shit in beginner's hands? A keyboard?

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            Guitar. Learn 3-4 chords and you can play half of the songs out there. Easy to begin with, hard to master.

            Alternatively, Ukulele. Just 4 strings, and smaller, so more suitable for small children, though the chords seem to be more complicated.

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              Facebook tier meme

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              • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                That is a flute. This is a recorder. It's just not the same putting it up there.

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                A recorder is a variety of flute known as a "fipple." But your point stands, some love to have a little fipple, while other's don't.

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                  Looking back I'm actually confused why this was even a thing. Did Big Recorder have deals with schools to push this? Is Big Recorder a thing?

                  We only ever used them for like 3 weeks and then it was on to the next thing. Haven't touched it since.

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                  They weren't really teaching you how to play the recorder, they were teaching you how to read music. The recorder was just the cheapest, least complicated way to connect the notes you read to sounds you could hear.

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                  • obi@sopuli.xyzO [email protected]

                    Yes yes, though I always imagined she had to take it apart because the parts you finger would definitely be a no-go.

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                    The parts you finger can't easily be removed.

                    Oh you meant the flute, not the girl.

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                      This is a right wing meme

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                      • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                        The parts you finger can't easily be removed.

                        Oh you meant the flute, not the girl.

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                        I'm glad someone took my bait 😜

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                        • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

                          Which leads to the conclusion that people are idiots and it doesn’t matter what you teach them.

                          There's a joke, once you get to college, that freshman year is about unlearning all the crap you were taught in high school.

                          This isn't an issue of "stupid people" nearly so much as it is deliberately manipulated and propagandized people.

                          What they're taught matters immensely. And one of the more insidious lessons of the Western education system is that schools exist to Stack Rank students, in order to segregate the Smarties from the Dummies and sort the deserving from the undeserving.

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                          I was a bit rude here, true. And I don't love all the testing and grading. A lot of teaching up to around seventh or eighth grade is putting material in front of kids until it clicks.

                          But anyway, still a bunch of people will whine that they didn't learn this very unenjoyable, very specific thing in school while chastising schools for not being enjoyable enough. And chastising schools for teaching things that are the very basis of being able to figure out this very unenjoyable, very specific thing.

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                            All education should be about creating productive citizens for the state!

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                            Well, it’s state funded, what did you expect?

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                            • sundray@lemmus.orgS [email protected]

                              They weren't really teaching you how to play the recorder, they were teaching you how to read music. The recorder was just the cheapest, least complicated way to connect the notes you read to sounds you could hear.

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                              We didn't learn to read music (I learned from separate piano lessons...)

                              They just had diagrams of where to put your fingers and then the letters of the note, not actual notes on a clef...

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                              • abasilplant@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                Answers in Progress made a (great) video about this:

                                why you were forced to learn the recorder in school

                                Highlight begins at 8:06.

                                There's a decent bit of history involved, going back to the Nazis in WW2.

                                It's not because it's cheap to manufacture, because it wasn't back in the day. It became cheaper because it grew popular. It was about unity and cultural identity.

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                                Super interesting. Thanks!

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                                  Now if you could only afford some hot cross buns

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                                    fingering scheme

                                    ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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                                    Wait until you hear about the g string

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                                      This is a right wing meme

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                                      Because they don't like being recorded?

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                                        Guitar. Learn 3-4 chords and you can play half of the songs out there. Easy to begin with, hard to master.

                                        Alternatively, Ukulele. Just 4 strings, and smaller, so more suitable for small children, though the chords seem to be more complicated.

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                                        Plenty of kids are not ready to handle a guitar

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                                          I cast vicious mockery, Nat 20. Let's F'ckn go!

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                                          Tuduludududoodeledie

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