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    #38

    Hah, as if the current fucked up trajectory will ever bring us to a future of high tech space exploration.

    The way things are going Mankind is vastly more likely to end up in some Dystopia were society has regressed to outright Feudalism and the most technological advanced stuff are at best mass distraction devices or some kind of ML-based social mass manipulator, possibly just the implanted equivalent of slave shock-collars and the systems to control large number of those.

    If even just a tiny fraction of the money spent in stock-buybacks was spent in space exploration we would already have space stations in Mars and be extracting minerals from the Asteroid Belt.

    We're not currently evolving, we're devolving.

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      Didn't show 'mind the size of a planet, but stocking shelves'.

      But, I guess I'm happy to be here.

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        In the first pictures, the knight would clearly be of the "upper" class. Your chances of being some peon in a field are much, much higher.

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          In the first pictures, the knight would clearly be of the "upper" class. Your chances of being some peon in a field are much, much higher.

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          A pitchfork still could kill a knight in armor. And then you have a horse and armor

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            You'd be working the fields.

            You'd be working the ice hauler.

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              this is extra funny when someone laments like this in Ukraine. Compared with some of our "too late" periods - we're having it good.

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                A pitchfork still could kill a knight in armor. And then you have a horse and armor

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                Horse thievery is a hanging offense, hanging offense.

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                  Hah, as if the current fucked up trajectory will ever bring us to a future of high tech space exploration.

                  The way things are going Mankind is vastly more likely to end up in some Dystopia were society has regressed to outright Feudalism and the most technological advanced stuff are at best mass distraction devices or some kind of ML-based social mass manipulator, possibly just the implanted equivalent of slave shock-collars and the systems to control large number of those.

                  If even just a tiny fraction of the money spent in stock-buybacks was spent in space exploration we would already have space stations in Mars and be extracting minerals from the Asteroid Belt.

                  We're not currently evolving, we're devolving.

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                  Assuming that space ships like in sci Fi are even physically possible. That's a tall ask. Momentum and energy are a bitch.

                  Also money can't buy "progress"

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                    You'd be working the fields.

                    You'd be working the ice hauler.

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                    REMEMBER THE CANT

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                      You won't be a knight, more like a farmer.

                      I don't like farms, no thanks. So much bugs. My grandparents, while working on the farms, got bitten by some worm that sucks your blood, ouch, don't want that.

                      (Also if you are conscripted in medieval era, knives and swords and arrows hurt like hell, at least a bullet is a quick clean death)

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                        Do we think that’s actually true, though? Life, all life, has a tendency to spread out when a niche is open in a new environment which it can fill, and there’s nothing shown there that isn’t technically within the bounds of humanity. Before capitalism, before humans were even Homo sapiens, we were already migrating out of Africa and into Eurasia. The drive to explore is, in my opinion, deeply human, and nothing says that the model of that exploration or expansion needs to be capitalistic. We wouldn’t have colonized the world in prehistory if it did.

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                        'The drive to explore' is from Star Trek. To boldly go where no one/man has gone before!

                        The US retold its origin story (the expansion West) through Westerns in the 50's. Particularly because the US won the space race, tv, and Hollywood, retold a future origin story expanding into space.

                        Many American people I come into contact with online really seem to have bought it, even though Star Trek portrays a communist society. The cognitive dissonance seemed to be on a national scale.

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                          Assuming that space ships like in sci Fi are even physically possible. That's a tall ask. Momentum and energy are a bitch.

                          Also money can't buy "progress"

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                          Using materials obtained outside the Earth's gravity well, we can make much larger ships than if we have to launch them from the surface of the Earth. Of course that requires some kind of materials processing facilities in space, which is depending on stuff like Moon bases and the years of development of materials science in low and zero-gravity environments possible in those.

                          Further, the Apolo Program has most definitelly shown we can buy progress. Not "beyond the known principles of present day science" progress (so, no amount of money is going to get us FTL travel) but certainly Engineering progress (so solar sail towed asteroids, moon mining, moon-based nuclear reactors, mass drivers to push loads from the Moon surface into orbit, alternative ship designs using materials found outside the Earth's surface and/or low weight designs such as the insuflable space stations that were at one point suggested and even test at a small scale, and so on).

                          It wasn't by chance that what I suggested was asteroid mining and Mars stations rather than interstellar travel - the money wasted in the Iraq invasion alone over the decades since could have built the infrastructure needed, to get the engineeringe experience required to be able to do the former, not the latter (as that indeed requires a kind of progress that we cannot buy).

                          Instead, we have Facebook, over the counter credit derivatives and LLMs.

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                            You're in the good times right now.

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                              You won't be a knight, more like a farmer.

                              I don't like farms, no thanks. So much bugs. My grandparents, while working on the farms, got bitten by some worm that sucks your blood, ouch, don't want that.

                              (Also if you are conscripted in medieval era, knives and swords and arrows hurt like hell, at least a bullet is a quick clean death)

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                              Yeah, I wanna sit in full plate armor and make-out... sounds fun. No, I wouldn't even want to live in a 17th century castle! Just living in a modern apartment, in a modern neighborhood is vastly more comfortable than a dank, dark, non-AC, poop in a chute 17th century castle.

                              Oh but we can sit around a campfire. Thats not so bad at least.

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                                Horse thievery is a hanging offense, hanging offense.

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                                Well I guess that's something you should consider before you kill a knight

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                                  I hate to break it to you. But if you were born back then, you wouldn't be a knight. You wouldn't be an explorer. You'd be a peasant. Working your farm from birth to grave.

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                                    You're in the good times right now.

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                                    That's the worst part

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                                      I hate to break it to you. But if you were born back then, you wouldn't be a knight. You wouldn't be an explorer. You'd be a peasant. Working your farm from birth to grave.

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                                      Still more leisure time then now.

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                                        That top panel is just Elden Ring?

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                                          You're in the good times right now.

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                                          I technically disagree, most periods human history had "good times" and the happiness of those people was relative to their expectations and equilibrium with the social and technical possibilities of their moment. You might be miserable if you were teleported to a relatively comfortable life in the year 1500, but they were probably every bit as content as some financially comfortable credentialed working class individual today.

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