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Exclusive: Early US intel assessment suggests strikes on Iran did not destroy nuclear sites, sources say | CNN Politics

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  • S [email protected]

    Gotta love me some anonymous low-level losers.

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    I want to be some anonymous low level loser when I grow up

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    • S [email protected]

      classified as ‘top secret’

      leaked ... by an anonymous, low-level loser

      C'mon media. Ask the obvious follow up question. C'mon!

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      Why make it top secret in the first place? Iran probably knows best the condition of their stuff, who else do you want to hide it from?

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      • F [email protected]

        I think the intel was wrong

        The intel said that Iran was not developing nuclear weapons. The strikes happened because Trump decided to ignore the intel in favor of the random imaginings in his head, and no doubt Netanyahu encouraged him.

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        I think we agree.
        The intel trump used to order the strikes was wrong... The intel was wrong.
        Presuming the buck stops with the president of course.

        I doubt he actually cared enough about any briefing material. He probably went in with the mentality of "Iran is developing nukes, and should be stopped" then asked for intel according to that presumption.

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          White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told CNN in a statement: “This alleged assessment is flat-out wrong and was classified as ‘top secret’ but was still leaked to CNN by an anonymous, low-level loser in the intelligence community. The leaking of this alleged assessment is a clear attempt to demean President Trump, and discredit the brave fighter pilots who conducted a perfectly executed mission to obliterate Iran’s nuclear program. Everyone knows what happens when you drop fourteen 30,000 pound bombs perfectly on their targets: total obliteration.”

          Everything else aside. I can't get over the fact that the White House is now communicating like a teenager getting high with his friends.

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          Did she make an L with her hand on her forehead?

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            Why make it top secret in the first place? Iran probably knows best the condition of their stuff, who else do you want to hide it from?

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            What's the obvious question?

            Was it Hegseth?

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            • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

              the mission failed to do more than set Iran back a few months

              Iran. Doesn't. Have. A. Nuclear. Weapons. Program.

              They have repeatedly presented evidence to this effect to multiple watchdog groups. They have had over 30 years to build a bomb and have declined to do so. The idea that this "set Iran back" is predicated on the theory that they were ever engaged in a project to build a weapon like this.

              The dirty truth of the matter is that Israel does not want Iran to access clean, cheap, highly efficient nuclear power for purely economic reasons. They don't want an Iranian industrial revolution that might put the country on par with Germany or Japan or Brazil or China. Keeping the Iranians trapped in the 1930s, technologically, is a part of a broader effort to strangle the Middle East (and Africa and the South Pacific states) and keep them yoked to the post-industrial Western economy as a source of cheap materials and cheap labor.

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              What? Iran already has a nuclear power plant with a 2nd one beginning construction in 2019 and a 3rd one planned. And the International Atomic Energy Agency had reported that Iran was not complying with their inspectors on numerous occasions: https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/06/1164291

              So wtf are you talking about?

              I'm not saying they have/had nukes, but your story is just completely made up.

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              • S [email protected]

                What's the obvious question?

                Was it Hegseth?

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                How does a low-level loser have access to top secrets?

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                • F [email protected]

                  She was probably in color guard or volleyball. That would not surprise me whatsoever. I don't hate many people. It's legitimately difficult for me to hate someone. She's REALLY FUCKING CLOSE.

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                  She was probably in color guard or volleyball.

                  This is the best burn I've seen a while. Thanks for the lols!

                  Edit: According to her wiki page, she played softball. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karoline_Leavitt

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                  • P [email protected]

                    How does a low-level loser have access to top secrets?

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                    Nah gotta make the question more pointed: why is your administration, in your own words, giving access to top secret Intel to low-level losers?

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                      #31

                      IAEA Director General's Introductory Statement to the Board of Governors

                      …we must return to the negotiating table and for that allow IAEA inspectors… to go back to Iran’s nuclear sites and account for the stockpiles of uranium, including, most importantly, the 400kg enriched to 60%.

                      The Board should be aware of a letter sent to me by Foreign Minister Dr Abbas Araghchi on 13 June in which he mentions that Iran will “adopt special measures to protect our nuclear equipment and materials”.

                      So we went from Iran almost 100% cooperating with the JCPOA, to Trump throwing out the deal, permitting an Israeli first strike, to enriched material loose inside of a nation we just attacked…

                      I don’t ever, fucking ever, want to hear a Republican talking about any degree of Democrat foreign policy failures. Jfc, how does he bungle the crisis - the crisis he created - so completely?

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                      • S [email protected]

                        White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told CNN in a statement: “This alleged assessment is flat-out wrong and was classified as ‘top secret’ but was still leaked to CNN by an anonymous, low-level loser in the intelligence community. The leaking of this alleged assessment is a clear attempt to demean President Trump, and discredit the brave fighter pilots who conducted a perfectly executed mission to obliterate Iran’s nuclear program. Everyone knows what happens when you drop fourteen 30,000 pound bombs perfectly on their targets: total obliteration.”

                        Everything else aside. I can't get over the fact that the White House is now communicating like a teenager getting high with his friends.

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                        I really thought you were writing a parody of what she could tell, but it’s real. This women is a disgrace.

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                          • S [email protected]

                            White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told CNN in a statement: “This alleged assessment is flat-out wrong and was classified as ‘top secret’ but was still leaked to CNN by an anonymous, low-level loser in the intelligence community. The leaking of this alleged assessment is a clear attempt to demean President Trump, and discredit the brave fighter pilots who conducted a perfectly executed mission to obliterate Iran’s nuclear program. Everyone knows what happens when you drop fourteen 30,000 pound bombs perfectly on their targets: total obliteration.”

                            Everything else aside. I can't get over the fact that the White House is now communicating like a teenager getting high with his friends.

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                            Yeah, it's shocking that it's real. Reads like a message from a dictatorship.

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                            • B [email protected]

                              What? Iran already has a nuclear power plant with a 2nd one beginning construction in 2019 and a 3rd one planned. And the International Atomic Energy Agency had reported that Iran was not complying with their inspectors on numerous occasions: https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/06/1164291

                              So wtf are you talking about?

                              I'm not saying they have/had nukes, but your story is just completely made up.

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                              So wtf are you talking about?

                              Nuclear power is very different from nuclear weapons.

                              And the International Atomic Energy Agency had reported that Iran was not complying with their inspectors on numerous occasions

                              This was the same manufactured story that the US used to invade Iraq. Cherry picking disputes between the IAEA and the Iranian energy ministry to justify a massacre of civilian scientists and civilians caught in the crossfire? Why are Americans so ready to throw away the lives of every other global citizen?

                              your story is just completely made up

                              The crusade by Netanyahu to provoke an invasion and massacre of Iranians is exhaustively well-documented. The US-lead effort to sanction Iran and cripple its economy, following the '79 revolution is exhaustively well-documented. From the Project For The New American Century, championed by Neocon wunderkind Bill Kristol to the Project 2025 authored by JD Vance, the goal of crippling Iran's economy and fomenting revolution domestically as a prelude to invasion has been laid out in excruciating detail.

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                              • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

                                So wtf are you talking about?

                                Nuclear power is very different from nuclear weapons.

                                And the International Atomic Energy Agency had reported that Iran was not complying with their inspectors on numerous occasions

                                This was the same manufactured story that the US used to invade Iraq. Cherry picking disputes between the IAEA and the Iranian energy ministry to justify a massacre of civilian scientists and civilians caught in the crossfire? Why are Americans so ready to throw away the lives of every other global citizen?

                                your story is just completely made up

                                The crusade by Netanyahu to provoke an invasion and massacre of Iranians is exhaustively well-documented. The US-lead effort to sanction Iran and cripple its economy, following the '79 revolution is exhaustively well-documented. From the Project For The New American Century, championed by Neocon wunderkind Bill Kristol to the Project 2025 authored by JD Vance, the goal of crippling Iran's economy and fomenting revolution domestically as a prelude to invasion has been laid out in excruciating detail.

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                                I'm not arguing Israel's or the US's intent to destroy the Iranian government (and, for the record, the Iranian government is definitely shitty, even a notable portion of their population loathes it as well). That Israel--and the current US administration--has been wanting to attack Iran for any reason, even if the reason is dubious, is not in question.

                                What I'm arguing is that you said this was all to prevent Iran to have nuclear energy, which is untrue since Iran already has that. And it is also undeniable that Iran has not been complying with the IAEA's inspectors since 2019. Why would the IAEA report that Iran is enriching uranium beyond what is needed for energy? Why is Iran not complying with their inspectors?

                                Those are questions worth asking and seeking the answers to. I do not agree they should be outright attacked over such things, but to pretend like Iran is completely innocent is ridiculous. It's unfortunate that genocidal war criminals are running Israel and a corrupt group of fascists is running the US at the moment, but it is unsurprising that they are not seeking to resolve these issues peacefully.

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                                • B [email protected]

                                  I'm not arguing Israel's or the US's intent to destroy the Iranian government (and, for the record, the Iranian government is definitely shitty, even a notable portion of their population loathes it as well). That Israel--and the current US administration--has been wanting to attack Iran for any reason, even if the reason is dubious, is not in question.

                                  What I'm arguing is that you said this was all to prevent Iran to have nuclear energy, which is untrue since Iran already has that. And it is also undeniable that Iran has not been complying with the IAEA's inspectors since 2019. Why would the IAEA report that Iran is enriching uranium beyond what is needed for energy? Why is Iran not complying with their inspectors?

                                  Those are questions worth asking and seeking the answers to. I do not agree they should be outright attacked over such things, but to pretend like Iran is completely innocent is ridiculous. It's unfortunate that genocidal war criminals are running Israel and a corrupt group of fascists is running the US at the moment, but it is unsurprising that they are not seeking to resolve these issues peacefully.

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                                  What I’m arguing is that you said this was all to prevent Iran to have nuclear energy, which is untrue since Iran already has that.

                                  They have a single nuclear plant that had been under construction since 1975 and was held up repeatedly by foreign intervention, including the 2009 sabotage effort by the Obama administration's CIA - which, incidentally, gave the rest of the world exposure to the Stuxnet virus as collateral. Then there has been the persistent effort by US and Israeli intelligence services to kidnap and assassinate Iranian nuclear scientists, also going back decades. Not even including the assassination efforts since 2021, we've seen attacks in 2007, 2009, 2010, and 2011 all linked back to western aligned governments.

                                  "Iran has a single nuclear power plant so what are you complaining about?" is deliberately naive and obtuse, particularly when peer nations like Germany and France have enjoyed the benefits of between six and fifty-six plants going back over 40 years. Hell, the UAE has four active plants and over 5x Iran's total energy capacity for a population 1/10th the size, without provoking the kind of intervention and assault the Iranians have endured.

                                  The latest bombing of uranium enrichment facilities - hell, the fact that they need to bury their refinement facilities at the bottom of a mountain to begin with - illustrate the undo costs and constant threats Iranians need to endure in order to modernize their electric grids.

                                  I do not agree they should be outright attacked over such things, but to pretend like Iran is completely innocent is ridiculous.

                                  Innocent of what? Implementing energy modernization strategies that have been in the works since prior to the revolution?

                                  What are you even accusing them of? Not adhering to an arms control agreement the US pulled out of as an excuse to attack them? It's insane to even talk about the Iranian nuclear program absent the malicious history of foreign intervention.

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                                  • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

                                    What I’m arguing is that you said this was all to prevent Iran to have nuclear energy, which is untrue since Iran already has that.

                                    They have a single nuclear plant that had been under construction since 1975 and was held up repeatedly by foreign intervention, including the 2009 sabotage effort by the Obama administration's CIA - which, incidentally, gave the rest of the world exposure to the Stuxnet virus as collateral. Then there has been the persistent effort by US and Israeli intelligence services to kidnap and assassinate Iranian nuclear scientists, also going back decades. Not even including the assassination efforts since 2021, we've seen attacks in 2007, 2009, 2010, and 2011 all linked back to western aligned governments.

                                    "Iran has a single nuclear power plant so what are you complaining about?" is deliberately naive and obtuse, particularly when peer nations like Germany and France have enjoyed the benefits of between six and fifty-six plants going back over 40 years. Hell, the UAE has four active plants and over 5x Iran's total energy capacity for a population 1/10th the size, without provoking the kind of intervention and assault the Iranians have endured.

                                    The latest bombing of uranium enrichment facilities - hell, the fact that they need to bury their refinement facilities at the bottom of a mountain to begin with - illustrate the undo costs and constant threats Iranians need to endure in order to modernize their electric grids.

                                    I do not agree they should be outright attacked over such things, but to pretend like Iran is completely innocent is ridiculous.

                                    Innocent of what? Implementing energy modernization strategies that have been in the works since prior to the revolution?

                                    What are you even accusing them of? Not adhering to an arms control agreement the US pulled out of as an excuse to attack them? It's insane to even talk about the Iranian nuclear program absent the malicious history of foreign intervention.

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                                    Again, you're ignoring that the IAEA's entire purpose is non-proliferation of nuclear weapons. Why deny compliance to third-party inspectors? If their endeavors were truly so innocent, then they had no reason to be uncooperative.

                                    Sorry, I will not feel pity towards the Iranian government. I sympathize for their people, but their government can shove off.

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                                      “Exclusive” then why is every major news outlet reporting it? Shut up CNN, a fox in donkey clothing.

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                                        Did she make an L with her hand on her forehead?

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                                        SomeBODY

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                                          “Exclusive” then why is every major news outlet reporting it? Shut up CNN, a fox in donkey clothing.

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                                          So far all the other outlets i have seen reported that CNN reported on it. So the interesting bit apparently only is with CNN.

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