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Why do so many conservatives in the US bash on California all the time?

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  • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

    A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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    I would guess most midwesterners have not been, so they dont know the reality of the place. So anyone can say it's full of bad people and they won't bat an eye.

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    • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

      A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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      Homelessness. Fent zombies. And running out of water during a bush fire while right next to the fucking ocean.

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      • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

        A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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        In integral part of conservative ideology is hatred and California's been a target for decades. When the acceptance of gays became too widespread they switched to hatred and vilification of transgender Americans. When the general population gets tired of listening to them screech about that they'll find someone/something else. For some reason they don't get tired of whining about CA.

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          It's the fifth largest global economy...

          It's hard proof that most of their policy is complete bullshit, because if they were right, liberal social policy and taxes would have chased all the wealthy away.

          But it doesn't, because people want to live in places with that kind of policy

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          It ain't perfect (cost of living has always been relatively high, even for states with comparable cities), but it's far and away better than any red state to my knowledge.

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          • roofuskit@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

            Why is it crowded there? It's expensive because it's crowded, so why is it so crowded? Do people actually want to live there or something?

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            As my dad said after moving to San Francisco "It's expensive here because it's worth it"

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              Since nobody here is giving any actual reasons and just putting up straw men, let me give you the real reasons.

              Crowded and high cost of living.

              And because politics, those two points extend into lots of homeless (crowded) and "liberal initiatives" (cost of living). But it's always rooted into crowded and high cost of living.

              But what about large cities in the red states? Yes, the same is said of those. Crowded and high cost of living.

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              So. Propoganda.

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                What’s crazy is that, by pure numbers, CA is basically tied with FL as having the second most republicans in the country—at around 6 million.* Only TX has them both beat. Conservatives really do shit on the 2nd/3rd largest enclave of republicans in the country 🤣

                *Based on the 2024 US election turnout—not registered republicans

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                CA republicans hate California just as much

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                • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                  A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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                  They hate the proof that their ideas suck and the ones they fight work, even when you fuck it up kinda badly.

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                    The people who tell conservatives what to think have indicated that California is bad. Why is it bad? They made some progress on a few things, and we can’t have that. It’s why we can’t have nice things like affordable healthcare and breathable air.

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                    Breathable air? That's just another commodity to sell to the masses. Like shelter. And water. And food.

                    If they could sell us sunlight, they would do it without a second thought.

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                    • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                      A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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                      I've never been to Alabama but I'll still shit on it because I've seen statistics and stories about how bad it is there. Same with Republicans. California is definitely one of the better states to live in by most metrics but it does have huge wealth inequality combined with its large population means there's no shortage of people in poverty and statistics and stories from that group that fox News can shove in the face of there audience and pretend that's how everyone in California is living.

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                        I would guess most midwesterners have not been, so they dont know the reality of the place. So anyone can say it's full of bad people and they won't bat an eye.

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                        It’s easy to hate and fear the “other” - not just a conservative thing, though I do think they’re a bit more vitriolic about it.

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                        • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                          A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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                          I'm not conservative but the last time i was in LA precovid it was actually a really shit place. Streets were gross, homeless everywhere, insane wealth disparity and so much sprawl. Food was 11/10. The economy probably wouldnt be what it is without silicon valley.

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                            California is a monument to the total debunking of right wing social ideology

                            It plus New York fund the existence of the red states

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                            That needs to stop

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                              What’s crazy is that, by pure numbers, CA is basically tied with FL as having the second most republicans in the country—at around 6 million.* Only TX has them both beat. Conservatives really do shit on the 2nd/3rd largest enclave of republicans in the country 🤣

                              *Based on the 2024 US election turnout—not registered republicans

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                              Imagine what California could accomplish without having to fight the rural Republican anchor dragging shit down constantly due to their propaganda.

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                              • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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                                They jelly of that economy

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                                  CA republicans hate California just as much

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                                  Many of them briefly leave, hate it and then come back and continue to talk about how much they hate California. And to them I say: please leave, we have enough people as it is.

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                                  • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                    A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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                                    It holds a level of cultural and economic dominance over much of the country to the point where it can often feel similar to how America does to Europeans.

                                    They make our art, they grow our food, and they represent us on a cultural stage to the world. And for a lot of middle America you will never be able to afford to move there, but some of your neighbors and friends will, and they'll love it.

                                    There's a lot of sour grapes in California hate, because Iowa, Missouri, ohio, etc know they're flyover states, they know they're never going to be the powerhouses that California is. So you watch your Los Angeles media on a Silicon Valley device eating your San Joaquin vegetables thinking about your childhood friend who couldn't take it here and got into a UC and never moved back. There's some bitterness if you left your small town, but if you didn't even manage that…

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                                      California is a monument to the total debunking of right wing social ideology

                                      It plus New York fund the existence of the red states

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                                      Oh dear, I have to post it again:

                                      Fuck the south

                                      Look at the economies of southern red states. They're fucking garbage and they turn out some of the most reprehensible personalities in our country. Pathetic.

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                                        It holds a level of cultural and economic dominance over much of the country to the point where it can often feel similar to how America does to Europeans.

                                        They make our art, they grow our food, and they represent us on a cultural stage to the world. And for a lot of middle America you will never be able to afford to move there, but some of your neighbors and friends will, and they'll love it.

                                        There's a lot of sour grapes in California hate, because Iowa, Missouri, ohio, etc know they're flyover states, they know they're never going to be the powerhouses that California is. So you watch your Los Angeles media on a Silicon Valley device eating your San Joaquin vegetables thinking about your childhood friend who couldn't take it here and got into a UC and never moved back. There's some bitterness if you left your small town, but if you didn't even manage that…

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                                        I think you hit the nail perfectly on the head

                                        i say living on the west coast after I escaped the drudgery that is the Midwest

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                                          They jelly of that economy

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                                          "B-but everyone is leaving California!!1!"

                                          To the people saying this: yeah, dream on. Step away from the hard right-wing media and look around. It's a myth.

                                          Yes there are some people leaving the state for places like Texas and Florida (sorry, but fuck knows why!). But there are still a ton of people here in CA, there are still people moving here, and there are still kids being born here. We are a loooong way from a mass exodus of economy crippling proportions.

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