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Why do so many conservatives in the US bash on California all the time?

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    It holds a level of cultural and economic dominance over much of the country to the point where it can often feel similar to how America does to Europeans.

    They make our art, they grow our food, and they represent us on a cultural stage to the world. And for a lot of middle America you will never be able to afford to move there, but some of your neighbors and friends will, and they'll love it.

    There's a lot of sour grapes in California hate, because Iowa, Missouri, ohio, etc know they're flyover states, they know they're never going to be the powerhouses that California is. So you watch your Los Angeles media on a Silicon Valley device eating your San Joaquin vegetables thinking about your childhood friend who couldn't take it here and got into a UC and never moved back. There's some bitterness if you left your small town, but if you didn't even manage that…

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    they wont be powerhouses if they keep voting for the gop.

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      Because Fox News tells them too

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      Propaganda is a hell of drug.

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      • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techS [email protected]

        I think you hit the nail perfectly on the head

        i say living on the west coast after I escaped the drudgery that is the Midwest

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        Having gotten roped back into the southeast for a bit, FUCK YOU, COMMIE!

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          Since nobody here is giving any actual reasons and just putting up straw men, let me give you the real reasons.

          Crowded and high cost of living.

          And because politics, those two points extend into lots of homeless (crowded) and "liberal initiatives" (cost of living). But it's always rooted into crowded and high cost of living.

          But what about large cities in the red states? Yes, the same is said of those. Crowded and high cost of living.

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          These are "I don't want to live there" reasons. The hate for California that right-wingers have is "this place shouldn't exist" type hate.

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          • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

            A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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            They're sheep

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              they wont be powerhouses if they keep voting for the gop.

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              They weren't going to be powerhouses regardless, but yes, voting for Republicans is fucking their economies. But there's nothing thats going to make Des Moines the San Francisco of the plains, nor Cincinnati the San Diego of the Midwest . The great lakes region is slowly rebuilding from the catastrophic loss of manufacturing. Coal isn't coming back and there's not much else for money in west Virginia.

              Some of these cities might rise again someday, but there's a reason people dream of the west coast and not Minneapolis or Chicagoland (though Chicagoland does rock, and so do Cleveland and Minnesota)

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                I'm on some outdoor forums and the most common complaints I hear about "Commiefornia" relate to gun control. They like their guns, and despise anyone who tries to interfere with that. The rest is mostly side issues.

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                Why are so many USian against gun control?

                I live in Europe. I can own handguns, semiauto rifles, including assault types and other sporting/hunting guns. I cannot modify them.

                Magazines are limited to 3 rounds, although procuring/3D printing larger ones is trivial, but if I get caught with one + the rifle, I'm are fucked.

                I have to pass a physical and psych test.

                I must attend a course which is essentially gun discipline and safety.

                My guns are registered, Including ballistic samples.

                If I sell a gun the police must be notified, and the buyer vetted.

                My guns must be kept in a locked, approved, gun locker.

                When in a car, the gun must be in a carry box, in the trunk, and munitions in the glove box.

                Except for some details please explain how this is fundamentally different from owning and driving a car.

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                  Why are so many USian against gun control?

                  I live in Europe. I can own handguns, semiauto rifles, including assault types and other sporting/hunting guns. I cannot modify them.

                  Magazines are limited to 3 rounds, although procuring/3D printing larger ones is trivial, but if I get caught with one + the rifle, I'm are fucked.

                  I have to pass a physical and psych test.

                  I must attend a course which is essentially gun discipline and safety.

                  My guns are registered, Including ballistic samples.

                  If I sell a gun the police must be notified, and the buyer vetted.

                  My guns must be kept in a locked, approved, gun locker.

                  When in a car, the gun must be in a carry box, in the trunk, and munitions in the glove box.

                  Except for some details please explain how this is fundamentally different from owning and driving a car.

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                  Because Murica that's why, They equate control to restriction. Which is Projection

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                  • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                    A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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                    California is successful. It is the strongest economy of the US, and one of the strongest economies in comparison to other, complete, countries. And it dares not to be Republican!

                    On the other hand, most Republican states could not survive without federal handouts, mostly supplied by more successful Democratic states.

                    It is envy, plain and simple.

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                    • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                      A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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                      Conservatives = keep stuff how it has been
                      California = modernize stuff and abandon how things were

                      It's basically in their name - to conserve.
                      California is doing exactly everything opposite, setting new trends and standards.

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                      • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                        A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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                        For the same reason liberals bash on Texas all the time: it’s a flagship state for the political brand that’s an easy target due to its size and problems (due to its size).

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                          A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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                          Because the entire concept of conservatism is based on having enemies.

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                            Why are so many USian against gun control?

                            I live in Europe. I can own handguns, semiauto rifles, including assault types and other sporting/hunting guns. I cannot modify them.

                            Magazines are limited to 3 rounds, although procuring/3D printing larger ones is trivial, but if I get caught with one + the rifle, I'm are fucked.

                            I have to pass a physical and psych test.

                            I must attend a course which is essentially gun discipline and safety.

                            My guns are registered, Including ballistic samples.

                            If I sell a gun the police must be notified, and the buyer vetted.

                            My guns must be kept in a locked, approved, gun locker.

                            When in a car, the gun must be in a carry box, in the trunk, and munitions in the glove box.

                            Except for some details please explain how this is fundamentally different from owning and driving a car.

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                            Because a lot of them know that if there was any kind of safety or training requirements, or a psyche or physical test, they would fail it.

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                              A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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                              Because it's a huge historically majority liberal state?

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                                A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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                                I get the sense places like California and New York are seen as the homes of the rich elite. Which, they are - because that’s where everyone wants to live. Conservatives miss that they’re also the homes of hundreds of thousands of oppressed working class like themselves who also hate those rich elites, because states are big places.

                                There’s also racism. They hate sanctuary cities because they go against their narrative that immigrants are destroying America. (Signed, a white guy living in a sanctuary city that is proud of its low crime rate)

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                                  they wont be powerhouses if they keep voting for the gop.

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                                  I agree. California has a great geographical advantage, but it's not what makes the state so attractive to live in.

                                  People don't like a cloistered lifestyle unless they've lived in it their entire lives. This means that new people considering moving to 'flyover states' have to contend with the local tribe that has been conned into thinking abortion kills babies and immigrants are sent by the devil.

                                  It's extremely difficult to break this trend, but I think we should be doing what we can to reach those who didn't have the opportunities we did.

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                                    It’s a stereotype. Why do many people instantly think of Texas when talking about conservative states?

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                                    Because texas is a shithole and the things conservatives like about it are why it sucks.

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                                      nevada, texas which has no income taxes have so many problems because of it, republicans suckered in by this "FREE money state' its only worth it if you are very wealthy yourself.

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                                      Nevada and texas are both shitholes. They exist to exploit workers who don't know any better and have bought into a lie sold to them by rich people.

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                                        Conservatives = keep stuff how it has been
                                        California = modernize stuff and abandon how things were

                                        It's basically in their name - to conserve.
                                        California is doing exactly everything opposite, setting new trends and standards.

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                                        And when California passes regulations, they often end up being adopted nationally, because most companies want to sell their products in the large market that is California but don't want to have to differentiate their product or service for different states. This causes a lot of resentment among the GOP.

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                                          A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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                                          Fear of the unknown. The unknown, in this case, is some semblance of a functioning society.

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