Why do so many conservatives in the US bash on California all the time?
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Since nobody here is giving any actual reasons and just putting up straw men, let me give you the real reasons.
Crowded and high cost of living.
And because politics, those two points extend into lots of homeless (crowded) and "liberal initiatives" (cost of living). But it's always rooted into crowded and high cost of living.
But what about large cities in the red states? Yes, the same is said of those. Crowded and high cost of living.
These are "I don't want to live there" reasons. The hate for California that right-wingers have is "this place shouldn't exist" type hate.
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A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.
They're sheep
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they wont be powerhouses if they keep voting for the gop.
They weren't going to be powerhouses regardless, but yes, voting for Republicans is fucking their economies. But there's nothing thats going to make Des Moines the San Francisco of the plains, nor Cincinnati the San Diego of the Midwest . The great lakes region is slowly rebuilding from the catastrophic loss of manufacturing. Coal isn't coming back and there's not much else for money in west Virginia.
Some of these cities might rise again someday, but there's a reason people dream of the west coast and not Minneapolis or Chicagoland (though Chicagoland does rock, and so do Cleveland and Minnesota)
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I'm on some outdoor forums and the most common complaints I hear about "Commiefornia" relate to gun control. They like their guns, and despise anyone who tries to interfere with that. The rest is mostly side issues.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Why are so many USian against gun control?
I live in Europe. I can own handguns, semiauto rifles, including assault types and other sporting/hunting guns. I cannot modify them.
Magazines are limited to 3 rounds, although procuring/3D printing larger ones is trivial, but if I get caught with one + the rifle, I'm are fucked.
I have to pass a physical and psych test.
I must attend a course which is essentially gun discipline and safety.
My guns are registered, Including ballistic samples.
If I sell a gun the police must be notified, and the buyer vetted.
My guns must be kept in a locked, approved, gun locker.
When in a car, the gun must be in a carry box, in the trunk, and munitions in the glove box.
Except for some details please explain how this is fundamentally different from owning and driving a car.
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Why are so many USian against gun control?
I live in Europe. I can own handguns, semiauto rifles, including assault types and other sporting/hunting guns. I cannot modify them.
Magazines are limited to 3 rounds, although procuring/3D printing larger ones is trivial, but if I get caught with one + the rifle, I'm are fucked.
I have to pass a physical and psych test.
I must attend a course which is essentially gun discipline and safety.
My guns are registered, Including ballistic samples.
If I sell a gun the police must be notified, and the buyer vetted.
My guns must be kept in a locked, approved, gun locker.
When in a car, the gun must be in a carry box, in the trunk, and munitions in the glove box.
Except for some details please explain how this is fundamentally different from owning and driving a car.
Because Murica that's why, They equate control to restriction. Which is Projection
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A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.
California is successful. It is the strongest economy of the US, and one of the strongest economies in comparison to other, complete, countries. And it dares not to be Republican!
On the other hand, most Republican states could not survive without federal handouts, mostly supplied by more successful Democratic states.
It is envy, plain and simple.
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A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.
Conservatives = keep stuff how it has been
California = modernize stuff and abandon how things wereIt's basically in their name - to conserve.
California is doing exactly everything opposite, setting new trends and standards. -
A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.
For the same reason liberals bash on Texas all the time: it’s a flagship state for the political brand that’s an easy target due to its size and problems (due to its size).
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A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.
Because the entire concept of conservatism is based on having enemies.
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Why are so many USian against gun control?
I live in Europe. I can own handguns, semiauto rifles, including assault types and other sporting/hunting guns. I cannot modify them.
Magazines are limited to 3 rounds, although procuring/3D printing larger ones is trivial, but if I get caught with one + the rifle, I'm are fucked.
I have to pass a physical and psych test.
I must attend a course which is essentially gun discipline and safety.
My guns are registered, Including ballistic samples.
If I sell a gun the police must be notified, and the buyer vetted.
My guns must be kept in a locked, approved, gun locker.
When in a car, the gun must be in a carry box, in the trunk, and munitions in the glove box.
Except for some details please explain how this is fundamentally different from owning and driving a car.
Because a lot of them know that if there was any kind of safety or training requirements, or a psyche or physical test, they would fail it.
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A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Because it's a huge historically majority liberal state?
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A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.
I get the sense places like California and New York are seen as the homes of the rich elite. Which, they are - because that’s where everyone wants to live. Conservatives miss that they’re also the homes of hundreds of thousands of oppressed working class like themselves who also hate those rich elites, because states are big places.
There’s also racism. They hate sanctuary cities because they go against their narrative that immigrants are destroying America. (Signed, a white guy living in a sanctuary city that is proud of its low crime rate)
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they wont be powerhouses if they keep voting for the gop.
I agree. California has a great geographical advantage, but it's not what makes the state so attractive to live in.
People don't like a cloistered lifestyle unless they've lived in it their entire lives. This means that new people considering moving to 'flyover states' have to contend with the local tribe that has been conned into thinking abortion kills babies and immigrants are sent by the devil.
It's extremely difficult to break this trend, but I think we should be doing what we can to reach those who didn't have the opportunities we did.
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It’s a stereotype. Why do many people instantly think of Texas when talking about conservative states?
Because texas is a shithole and the things conservatives like about it are why it sucks.
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nevada, texas which has no income taxes have so many problems because of it, republicans suckered in by this "FREE money state' its only worth it if you are very wealthy yourself.
Nevada and texas are both shitholes. They exist to exploit workers who don't know any better and have bought into a lie sold to them by rich people.
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Conservatives = keep stuff how it has been
California = modernize stuff and abandon how things wereIt's basically in their name - to conserve.
California is doing exactly everything opposite, setting new trends and standards.And when California passes regulations, they often end up being adopted nationally, because most companies want to sell their products in the large market that is California but don't want to have to differentiate their product or service for different states. This causes a lot of resentment among the GOP.
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A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.
Fear of the unknown. The unknown, in this case, is some semblance of a functioning society.
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A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.
California is strictly better than every red state in almost every measure. They literally hate it because it directly disproves their worldview that conservatives are good for the economy.
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A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.
wrote last edited by [email protected]It's heavily featured in Fox and other conservative
propagandamedia. So is the pacific northwest... my god, my dad will not stop talking about the homeless hordes of seattle or whatever.TBH Texas and Florda are portrayed similarly in many leftist tabloids. Speaking as someone who has recently leaved in both, yes, they are conservative dystopias, but not uniformly and not like news would lead you to believe.
There are just blowing up grains of truth.
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A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.
If California is allowed to look good, then it hurts the credibility of their ideology.
I think there are some criticisms about Californians leaving the state raising housing prices in their own state. That’s just how supply and demand works though when the supply of houses suddenly becomes more limited in your area.
They like to say things along the lines of: “Californians messed up their own state with their high taxes, fled here, are driving all the prices up, and are now trying to bring their fAiLeD PoLiTiCs to the state.” The real answer is that California is such a desirable place to live that there are not enough houses and well paying jobs to go around. People leave the state because of unregulated capitalist pressures, not because of the state’s strong social programs.
It’s not just Californians moving to other states that are driving prices up. Housing prices going up is also caused by private equity firms buying up available properties, a slowdown on building new houses capping supply, people from other states moving, and Not In My Backyard people trying to prevent lower cost housing in their towns since they don’t want the price of their house to ever drop.
Having strong social programs in their own states could actually help mitigate the impact of prices going up for housing as well as for other goods and services. For instance, they could have their own state provided healthcare coverage to help them have guaranteed healthcare. They could have better public transportation systems so they are not so car reliant to get to work. Rent controls in place to mitigate landlords pricing people out of the area. Affordable housing construction. Even things like public utilities could be offered for less by the state for gas, electricity, phone, and internet.
