Why do so many conservatives in the US bash on California all the time?
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A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Because it's a huge historically majority liberal state?
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A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.
I get the sense places like California and New York are seen as the homes of the rich elite. Which, they are - because that’s where everyone wants to live. Conservatives miss that they’re also the homes of hundreds of thousands of oppressed working class like themselves who also hate those rich elites, because states are big places.
There’s also racism. They hate sanctuary cities because they go against their narrative that immigrants are destroying America. (Signed, a white guy living in a sanctuary city that is proud of its low crime rate)
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they wont be powerhouses if they keep voting for the gop.
I agree. California has a great geographical advantage, but it's not what makes the state so attractive to live in.
People don't like a cloistered lifestyle unless they've lived in it their entire lives. This means that new people considering moving to 'flyover states' have to contend with the local tribe that has been conned into thinking abortion kills babies and immigrants are sent by the devil.
It's extremely difficult to break this trend, but I think we should be doing what we can to reach those who didn't have the opportunities we did.
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It’s a stereotype. Why do many people instantly think of Texas when talking about conservative states?
Because texas is a shithole and the things conservatives like about it are why it sucks.
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nevada, texas which has no income taxes have so many problems because of it, republicans suckered in by this "FREE money state' its only worth it if you are very wealthy yourself.
Nevada and texas are both shitholes. They exist to exploit workers who don't know any better and have bought into a lie sold to them by rich people.
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Conservatives = keep stuff how it has been
California = modernize stuff and abandon how things wereIt's basically in their name - to conserve.
California is doing exactly everything opposite, setting new trends and standards.And when California passes regulations, they often end up being adopted nationally, because most companies want to sell their products in the large market that is California but don't want to have to differentiate their product or service for different states. This causes a lot of resentment among the GOP.
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A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.
Fear of the unknown. The unknown, in this case, is some semblance of a functioning society.
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A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.
California is strictly better than every red state in almost every measure. They literally hate it because it directly disproves their worldview that conservatives are good for the economy.
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A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.
wrote last edited by [email protected]It's heavily featured in Fox and other conservative
propagandamedia. So is the pacific northwest... my god, my dad will not stop talking about the homeless hordes of seattle or whatever.TBH Texas and Florda are portrayed similarly in many leftist tabloids. Speaking as someone who has recently leaved in both, yes, they are conservative dystopias, but not uniformly and not like news would lead you to believe.
There are just blowing up grains of truth.
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A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.
If California is allowed to look good, then it hurts the credibility of their ideology.
I think there are some criticisms about Californians leaving the state raising housing prices in their own state. That’s just how supply and demand works though when the supply of houses suddenly becomes more limited in your area.
They like to say things along the lines of: “Californians messed up their own state with their high taxes, fled here, are driving all the prices up, and are now trying to bring their fAiLeD PoLiTiCs to the state.” The real answer is that California is such a desirable place to live that there are not enough houses and well paying jobs to go around. People leave the state because of unregulated capitalist pressures, not because of the state’s strong social programs.
It’s not just Californians moving to other states that are driving prices up. Housing prices going up is also caused by private equity firms buying up available properties, a slowdown on building new houses capping supply, people from other states moving, and Not In My Backyard people trying to prevent lower cost housing in their towns since they don’t want the price of their house to ever drop.
Having strong social programs in their own states could actually help mitigate the impact of prices going up for housing as well as for other goods and services. For instance, they could have their own state provided healthcare coverage to help them have guaranteed healthcare. They could have better public transportation systems so they are not so car reliant to get to work. Rent controls in place to mitigate landlords pricing people out of the area. Affordable housing construction. Even things like public utilities could be offered for less by the state for gas, electricity, phone, and internet.
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A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.
An often overlooked aspect is that much of the rural US is experiencing pretty aggressive gentrification. "California" is the nebulous word used to describe that process by conservatives because actual understanding and contextualizing is "woke".
California being the stand in word due to the socio-economic reasons already stated.
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A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.
California is a big, shiny, undeniable counter-point to everything they claim is bad about liberalism.
More people choose to live here than anywhere else (in America) and we have more money than anyone else because our economy is more productive than anywhere else (in America).
It's California. Go anywhere in the world and say the word "California" and they'll know what you're talking about, even if they don't speak English.
California is concrete proof that liberalism isn't some failed ideology and they REALLY don't like that. Hell, we're responsible for some of these conservative states even existing, as they siphon money from us because we pay WAY more to the federal government than any other state.
Conservatives don't have a state as successful as California. And even most of their large cities are liberal.
It's hate based in jealousy.
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It's heavily featured in Fox and other conservative
propagandamedia. So is the pacific northwest... my god, my dad will not stop talking about the homeless hordes of seattle or whatever.TBH Texas and Florda are portrayed similarly in many leftist tabloids. Speaking as someone who has recently leaved in both, yes, they are conservative dystopias, but not uniformly and not like news would lead you to believe.
There are just blowing up grains of truth.
my dad will not stop talking about the homeless hordes of seattle or whatever.
Californian here. I would rather live with the homeless than live in a conservative shithole state. Yeah, there's homeless. But I'm also living in world-renowned California.
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my dad will not stop talking about the homeless hordes of seattle or whatever.
Californian here. I would rather live with the homeless than live in a conservative shithole state. Yeah, there's homeless. But I'm also living in world-renowned California.
wrote last edited by [email protected]There's some pretty great stuff here in Texas (and Florida). But they aren't shitholes. It's mostly not that bad, and not that conservative.
...There are homeless hordes here, too.
Regions have their shit politics and weaknesses, but what's on tabloids is a caricature of what its like on the ground.
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I get the sense places like California and New York are seen as the homes of the rich elite. Which, they are - because that’s where everyone wants to live. Conservatives miss that they’re also the homes of hundreds of thousands of oppressed working class like themselves who also hate those rich elites, because states are big places.
There’s also racism. They hate sanctuary cities because they go against their narrative that immigrants are destroying America. (Signed, a white guy living in a sanctuary city that is proud of its low crime rate)
I get the sense places like California and New York are seen as the homes of the rich elite.
And then they elected a born rich New York elite man-child. Twice.
Not a bright bunch.
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"B-but everyone is leaving California!!1!"
To the people saying this: yeah, dream on. Step away from the hard right-wing media and look around. It's a myth.
Yes there are some people leaving the state for places like Texas and Florida (sorry, but fuck knows why!). But there are still a ton of people here in CA, there are still people moving here, and there are still kids being born here. We are a loooong way from a mass exodus of economy crippling proportions.
Yeah, as a Californian the "mass exodus" propaganda was hilarious.
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CA republicans hate California just as much
wrote last edited by [email protected]As a Californian I've spent decades watching CA Republicans whine about California then...stay.
I just laugh in their faces now. You're here because it's California and you know it's good. I'm not going to entertain their empty whining. I'll just laugh at them while they enjoy the weather and all the other cool shit they complain about.
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I'm on some outdoor forums and the most common complaints I hear about "Commiefornia" relate to gun control. They like their guns, and despise anyone who tries to interfere with that. The rest is mostly side issues.
I live in CA and every time I go camping in the Sierra Nevada I can hear people popping off shots nearby. These low IQ conservatives from elsewhere think guns are banned here or something. They are not.
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Having gotten roped back into the southeast for a bit, FUCK YOU, COMMIE!
The midwest reclaimed me from the PNW but after getting the family to visit they're all on board for moving there. If it's still allowed when we're ready.
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A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.
Perceived as most left-leaning of the states , wen any one who knows just a little past surface level about USian politics , they'll realise there's no true "left-leaning" state lol
