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    Domains hosted by cloud flare block AI scrapers by default, last I heard

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    Cloudflare is harmful. Sure, maybe they're doing a Good Thing™ today, but who stops them from turning around and selling all of the data they proxy to AI companies tomorrow? There is rarely a good reason to use cloudflare. If you care about blocking bots, there are self-hostable tools like Anubis. If you care about hiding your server's IP, you can use a VPN that allows port forwarding or rent a VPS. Do not use cloudflare. Cloudflare should not be used. By using cloudflare, you surrender your digital sovereignty for a mirage of convenience and safety.

    (Yes, I understand the irony of posting this from a instance that uses cloudflare)

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    • una@europe.pubU [email protected]

      Yeah, basically only reason I am using discord is because I am trans and I don't have much support and not much friends, or stuff to do in real life where I live where I can meet other trans or other LGBTQ+ people and discord is kinda only place for me. I will try maybe finding similar alternatives but.

      Also reason why I still use reddit, they just offer me faster communication with people due to bigger number of users, which I sometimes need because sometimes I do feel real bad but I do try to get more active on Lemmy and fediverse and I get that neither of what I am saying is the fault of fediverse.

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      Check out https://blahaj.zone/ . It's a Sharkey instance (fork of Misskey) that's focused towards LGBTQ+ people. If you're transfem, i've heard that transfem.social exists.

      But i get what you mean. They are not like discord.

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        which I sometimes need because sometimes I do feel real bad

        I kinda get what you mean. Sense of belonging and communication with people who understand you is important, never sacrifice your community in favor of some ideological quirk! Sure, there are good reasons to avoid reddit and discord, but they're not good enough to cut yourself loose from people who make you feel like you belong!!

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        Yeah, if I have good support irl it would make it easier for my privacy. But I will try being active here to make community bigger, honestly fediverse seems chill to me I like it.

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          I don't have children. My legacy is running 37 Quora accounts that each answer niche questions very incorrectly, over and over.

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          truly you are doing the Lord's work

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            Yes indeed. It seems so far that the best defence is to join utterly unhinged communities and participate in degeneracy so severe that no publicly traded company would want to scrape you. Something something become ungovernable.

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            Are you advocating going back to reddit?

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              Check out https://blahaj.zone/ . It's a Sharkey instance (fork of Misskey) that's focused towards LGBTQ+ people. If you're transfem, i've heard that transfem.social exists.

              But i get what you mean. They are not like discord.

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              Yeah, thanks. I am already on Lemmy and Mastodon (lgbtqia.space) and try to be active on both. I just don't get as much immediate reply as on discord and reddit. Which I am not blaming fediverse users, just in certain situations I need immediate reply. But yeah, I do enjoy being on fediverse and love it here :3 really chill and fun place

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                Yeah, basically only reason I am using discord is because I am trans and I don't have much support and not much friends, or stuff to do in real life where I live where I can meet other trans or other LGBTQ+ people and discord is kinda only place for me. I will try maybe finding similar alternatives but.

                Also reason why I still use reddit, they just offer me faster communication with people due to bigger number of users, which I sometimes need because sometimes I do feel real bad but I do try to get more active on Lemmy and fediverse and I get that neither of what I am saying is the fault of fediverse.

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                avg discord mod

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                  avg discord mod

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                  I'm not even mod of anything, except of [email protected]

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                    Cloudflare is harmful. Sure, maybe they're doing a Good Thing™ today, but who stops them from turning around and selling all of the data they proxy to AI companies tomorrow? There is rarely a good reason to use cloudflare. If you care about blocking bots, there are self-hostable tools like Anubis. If you care about hiding your server's IP, you can use a VPN that allows port forwarding or rent a VPS. Do not use cloudflare. Cloudflare should not be used. By using cloudflare, you surrender your digital sovereignty for a mirage of convenience and safety.

                    (Yes, I understand the irony of posting this from a instance that uses cloudflare)

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                    Cloudflare announced their paid AI scraping service at the same time as they blocked AI scrapers.

                    Though at least they revenue share with content owners... Assuming said content owners are in paid cloudflare plans, abs opt-in.

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                      IRC anyone?

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                        Cloudflare is harmful. Sure, maybe they're doing a Good Thing™ today, but who stops them from turning around and selling all of the data they proxy to AI companies tomorrow? There is rarely a good reason to use cloudflare. If you care about blocking bots, there are self-hostable tools like Anubis. If you care about hiding your server's IP, you can use a VPN that allows port forwarding or rent a VPS. Do not use cloudflare. Cloudflare should not be used. By using cloudflare, you surrender your digital sovereignty for a mirage of convenience and safety.

                        (Yes, I understand the irony of posting this from a instance that uses cloudflare)

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                        What stops any domain host from selling us out tomorrow? Why single out cloudflare?

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                          IRC anyone?

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                          What if I want to actually talk to other people, though?

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                          • una@europe.pubU [email protected]

                            I'm not even mod of anything, except of [email protected]

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                            avg [email protected] mod

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                              1ˢᵗ worlder weeping

                              Oh noes: 1ˢᵗ world problems.
                              How will we live?

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                                Counter offer: Be a huge nerd and hang out on Lemmy instead.

                                You'll probably be scraped by AI bots anyway, but we have penguins and Star Trek memes. And knives.

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                                  I don't have children. My legacy is running 37 Quora accounts that each answer niche questions very incorrectly, over and over.

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                                  Bleach and ammonia is fantastic in milkshakes !

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                                    Try to avoid walled gardens in general.

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                                      I don't have children. My legacy is running 37 Quora accounts that each answer niche questions very incorrectly, over and over.

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                                      37 quora accounts, you say? It's a long shot, but does the name Nel Croissant mean anything to you?

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                                        What stops any domain host from selling us out tomorrow? Why single out cloudflare?

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                                        Holding your own certs and constantly reviewing your and your users threat models. Cloudflare's excessive control comes from them being a proxy.

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                                          Discord is one of the greedy AI companies training on your data

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                                          Even if Discord wasn't doing it, public Discord guilds are known to be scraped by a number of different bots. Previously, it was for spies, cops, and private investigators who wanted to search for messages by username. If those bots could do it before, AI bots will be doing it aggressively today.

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