The internet kind of sucks right now
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Oh noes: 1ˢᵗ world problems.
How will we live?The entire world has access to the internet, and it's becoming a problem for everyone.
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Counter offer: Be a huge nerd and hang out on Lemmy instead.
You'll probably be scraped by AI bots anyway, but we have penguins and Star Trek memes. And knives.
You could, yes.
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IRC anyone?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Take me back to the as3 IRC on efnet
Edit: they said I made the scariest version of breakout
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IRC anyone?
This is the way.
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Am I the only person who doesn't care if people 'scrape' my 'knowledge?'
That's the whole point of putting something online. So anyone can look at it. I'm not about to get petty about who has access and who doesn't.
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The entire world has access to the internet, and it's becoming a problem for everyone.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Does the rest of the world have enough fucks to spare for this over their real problems of hunger, war, disease, poverty, violence, illiteracy, toxic pollution, human rights abuses?
Despite their real-world problems paling in comparison to online bullshit, will they live? -
Does the rest of the world have enough fucks to spare for this over their real problems of hunger, war, disease, poverty, violence, illiteracy, toxic pollution, human rights abuses?
Despite their real-world problems paling in comparison to online bullshit, will they live?After instilling division, fascism, and maybe even war, I'd say there's a chance they do not.
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Everyone should be forming real-life groups on discord, be in cells, be part of several, everyone should be linked like chain mesh.
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After instilling division, fascism, and maybe even war, I'd say there's a chance they do not.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Slippery slope: none of that necessarily happens.
As with any tool, it's up to the users.What we know for sure is that these are modern nuisances for people who live relatively amazing lives, so they just make shit up to be upset about.
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Just talk absolute shit, like I do.
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Poison the well!
Poison the well? .... this is like saying we should poison a vat of rotting chicken blood.
Human knowledge and human interaction is already shit to start with ..... AI learning from us will only produce an authoritarian psychotic intelligence that will see us humans as an enemy to fear and destroy .... just like how we think of anything or anyone different from us.
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The left path is better because if you adopt some privacy hygiene when using the internet, you can be more sure that these AI companies won't scrape your sensitive info. Whatever data they scrape from places like here is going to be meaningless. Even if the AI is trained on your Lemmy posts, so what? People are here for the community and the people who want human experience will seek it.
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This implies Discord will not use messages sent to train AI.
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good thing in the US parmesan cheese already comes premixed with sawdust, otherwise you need to buy it separately
wrote last edited by [email protected]You can save a bit of money by using sandpaper on your feet and aging the dust a bit.
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What if I want to actually talk to other people, though?
Find another IRC channel.
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This implies Discord will not use messages sent to train AI.
It also implies that AI companies have not already setup bots to join and scrape whatever data they can from public discord channels.
Sure it might be against the discord TOS, but that isn't going to stop them.
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SMS like we used to.
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Cloudflare is harmful. Sure, maybe they're doing a Good Thing
today, but who stops them from turning around and selling all of the data they proxy to AI companies tomorrow? There is rarely a good reason to use cloudflare. If you care about blocking bots, there are self-hostable tools like Anubis. If you care about hiding your server's IP, you can use a VPN that allows port forwarding or rent a VPS. Do not use cloudflare. Cloudflare should not be used. By using cloudflare, you surrender your digital sovereignty for a mirage of convenience and safety.(Yes, I understand the irony of posting this from a instance that uses cloudflare)
wrote last edited by [email protected]There is rarely a good reason to use cloudflare [...] By using cloudflare, you surrender your digital sovereignty for a mirage of convenience and safety.
Heh, man you have no idea how bad the DDoS attacks are without some form of protection. It doesn't necessarily have to be Cloudflare, but if you're putting up a public-facing website that you want people to be able to access, you absolutely need some DDoS protection service. You need someone to detect large-scale malicious traffic and offload it before it hits your system. It's no mirage. Arch has been under attack for days. DDoS-for-hire is a profitable criminal enterprise. It is really really bad out there on the open Internet.
Self-hosting a bot-interference tool like Anubis does nothing to help with DDoS attacks. You need a high-bandwidth shield that can absorb the incoming connection requests, filter out the legitimate users and dump the rest before it touches your server (preferably before it touches your edge devices), and that means a CDN.
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Holding your own certs and constantly reviewing your and your users threat models. Cloudflare's excessive control comes from them being a proxy.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Right, the middleware is the issue. You can bake all of what Cloudflare does yourself as far as hardening goes and utilities like Anubis and Pangolin, buuut you're not getting that DDOS protection.
To Lemmy's benefit, DDOSing one of us isn't DDOSing all of us, buuut there's a bit to be said about Lemmy mostly centralizing around .world.
If one had a botfarm and a grudge...
There are proxies and selfhosted middleware out there that can be set up across arrays of vpses who'll then redirect based on health and load, but once they know all of them, I guess you're done running.
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I don't even have any special knowledge knowledge that could be scraped. I'm just adding noise.
