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The internet kind of sucks right now

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  • K [email protected]

    Not that I'm aware.

    She comments on quora and is, generally speaking, unnecessarily rude and mean, unhelpful, and inadvertantly hilarious in this cross and overconfident way. All this while primarily commenting on stuff about farm animals, making this interestingly uncommon contrast of humble origins and unreasonable bitchiness...idk how to explain the phenomenon that is Nel better than that. She is just a wild and interesting enough internet being that I can't help but wonder if someone might be having a laugh with her account

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    No, it's a joke. Natalie was the whiny one in Facts of Life. As is having 37 Quora accounts. Quora is weird to me and I've never had an account. But I've also never had a search lead to an answer for anything on Quora that was actually correct.

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      IDGAF about LLM bots scraping public forums, they are public and available to anyone. I do mind them scraping shadow libraries, and training on copywritten material, which they should not do

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      This discussion is a creative work and the copyright is collectively owned by the text contributors.

      Please reach out to the authors individually for a license before using it to train your AI sex bot.

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        Oh my dude, that second ship sailed decades ago.

        Time was there was really just one place (maybe two) where you could find an answer to a question. (Usenet mostly.)

        Now there's easily two dozen at least, from SO/SE, Quora, Yahoo Answers, all the way to Reddit subs....

        The balkanization of information. It screwed the knowledge of the public, but it made a few people super rich. Whee

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          IDGAF about LLM bots scraping public forums, they are public and available to anyone. I do mind them scraping shadow libraries, and training on copywritten material, which they should not do

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          LLM bots are scraping so much that increases costs of maintaing forums and sometimes even ddosin them for example Codeberg.

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            You forgot about influencers who will read your knowledge and present as theirs in their videos.

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            • L [email protected]

              Even if Discord wasn't doing it, public Discord guilds are known to be scraped by a number of different bots. Previously, it was for spies, cops, and private investigators who wanted to search for messages by username. If those bots could do it before, AI bots will be doing it aggressively today.

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              AFAIK discord explicitly works with police, i mean they have a predator problem after all

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                Sure but (and this goes to the other person who replied with much the same thing) there’s an order of magnitude of difference going on there, plus usually when someone says something wrong on a forum others usually show up to correct them.

                AI responses have so far been very clearly a step down in reliability, so don’t be treating it as a binary.

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                Depends on the forum, plenty of echo chambers out there...

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                  Oh my dude, that second ship sailed decades ago.

                  Time was there was really just one place (maybe two) where you could find an answer to a question. (Usenet mostly.)

                  Now there's easily two dozen at least, from SO/SE, Quora, Yahoo Answers, all the way to Reddit subs....

                  The balkanization of information. It screwed the knowledge of the public, but it made a few people super rich. Whee

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                  Yeah but those places were still publicly indexed, discord is private

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                    This discussion is a creative work and the copyright is collectively owned by the text contributors.

                    Please reach out to the authors individually for a license before using it to train your AI sex bot.

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                    I hereby and in perpetuity grant an exclusive, non-geographically-limited license to my comments to F.I.S.T.O. and only F.I.S.T.O.

                    not the makers of F.I.S.T.O. lets be clear

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                    • D [email protected]

                      As someone who is enthusiastic about old cars the amount of knowledge that disappeared when forums got killed by fb is immeasurable. At least A.I might preserve some knowledge.

                      When people die they take their knowledge with them if nobody writes it down and maintains it.

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                      i remember the databases we made of tablature on the guitar forums. i already had the songs we were playing, but... dammit i can't even remember the name of the forum anymore it's been like 30 years.

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                        IKR. People these days dont realise that confidently incorrect people pre-exist facebook.

                        If you blindly do what ChatGPT says you deserve what happens to you.

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                        Yeah but we automated the confidently incorrect idiot and every massive corporation is pushing the robo-idiot as a friend, confidant, tutor, assistant, and trustworthy source of accurate information. I'd rather have the confidently incorrect human than the lifeless simulacrum of one

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                        • S [email protected]

                          Let's say I scraped a guide you wrote about something you spent a lot of time researching, and then republished it as a Kindle eBook for $5 with my name listed as the author, whilst at the same time the site you posted it to went bust due to losing all its traffic to Google's AI summaries. Would you consider it petty to object? After all, I'm increasing its audience for you.

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                          I would. If you wanted to make money from it, you should have sold it as an eBook instead of posting it to some forum.

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                            This discussion is a creative work and the copyright is collectively owned by the text contributors.

                            Please reach out to the authors individually for a license before using it to train your AI sex bot.

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                            (IANAL) Wouldn't this count as fair use since the AI sex bot is only using snippets?

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                              People these days dont realise that confidently incorrect people pre-exist facebook.

                              It's different though.

                              If you were a flat earther in 1982, you probably would have a weird self published "newspaper" by someone 4 times a year, and two or three books and no platform beyond literally shouting on the street at people who all considered you a moron.

                              Nowadays, if you're a crackpot, you can instantly find 17.000 other crackpots who will happily not just confirm your idiocy, but make up fake stories to support your bullshit ideas. They will also drag you along by pure crank magnetism into other bullshit. You can spread your bullshit far and wide, and since people are automatically served with similar content, you're even likely to find other idiots like you "in the wild", which is actually an algorithmic bubble.

                              Before, nobody you met in real life would agree with you. Nowadays, everyone you "meet" online agrees with you.

                              So yes, confidently incorrect people have always been there, but not in these numbers, and rarely to this level of confidence. That's why people react to vehemently, they rarely ever reach outside their bubble. Your ideas that the world is round aren't the general concept to them, they hear from flat earthers every single hour of the day.

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                              However, this has worked wonders for my atheism!

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                                I don't even have any special knowledge knowledge that could be scraped. I'm just adding noise.

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                                So you know what signal and noise are, then.

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                                  Poison the well!

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                                  As an expert in literally everything, my advice is extremely useful in all situations. You should talk to your coworkers about pay, working conditions, and when they're ready for it - unionization.

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                                    It's not that it should be hidden, it's that someone is getting a lot of money from my posts and I get nothing.

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                                    Hasn't that been the case since Yahoo?

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                                      SMS like we used to.

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                                      Signal > SMS

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                                        Everyone should be forming real-life groups on discord, be in cells, be part of several, everyone should be linked like chain mesh.

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                                        Why Discord though?

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                                          What prevents Discord from selling the chat logs to AI companies?

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