Also, they already had a deal with the US before Trump voided it
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Conspiring to commit a crime is a crime in and of itself.
And I get not trusting the USA, but Iran is a lot more terrifying.
Way to deflect there, buddy.
US never had any business "policing" other countries, especially considering how many governments we've been responsible for overthrowing - for nothing more than profit.
And I couldn't possibly care any less about fear mongering propaganda about how terrifying Iran is. Don't get me wrong, that fucker in charge is a complete bastard. But I don't actually know anything other than the message I'm told to believe - by one of the most corrupt nations on the planet.
Fuck warmongering. ಠ_ಠ
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America is a threat to world peace
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IraqIran has WMDs -
I mean, do you want to wait until they actually do have them? I'm not familiar with what Netanyahu has said, but years away seems like a good time to disrupt their program.
Israel is committing a genocide, no one seems to be disrupting them.
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Conspiring to commit a crime is a crime in and of itself.
And I get not trusting the USA, but Iran is a lot more terrifying.
If having nuclear weapons is a crime then start with Israel.
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Serious question, why do you think they're enriching uranium? Do you genuinely believe they want to build a nuclear power plant?
Yes. They have a right to civilian nuclear power.
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It wasn't okay the first time around either. Anyone credulous enough to believe that obvious bullshit shouldn't have been allowed to form legal contracts for their own safety.
It's a lot of the same people who voted Trump in, so that shit tracks.
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check out the NEW i-ran
Man. I watched this skit when it came out and I still refer to it. It's lived rent free in my head for 18 years (?!!!) and I only watched it once when it came out. Thanks for that mental whiplash
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It's a lot of the same people who voted Trump in, so that shit tracks.
I was a young teen when it happened and it just seemed ridiculous that anyone would be naïve enough to fall for the extremely obvious lies.
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IraqIran has WMDsIf Iran really have WMDs the Zionists aren't going to pull the shit they're currently pulling right now.
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I mean, do you want to wait until they actually do have them? I'm not familiar with what Netanyahu has said, but years away seems like a good time to disrupt their program.
actually have them.
100% unironically: yes. I’ll tell you why. The US already has them and has used them on civilians twice already.
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And it was never supposed to be nukes right? It was like chemical weapons or something.
Bush Jr did at one point say something like "... the smoking gun, which could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."
Think it was a SOTU. 02?
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If Iran really have WMDs the Zionists aren't going to pull the shit they're currently pulling right now.
Israel is the bully who only talks shit when their older brother is behind him. They forgot to look back this time and got clocked, now they're crying
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There wasn’t much of a consensus for Iraqi wmds either.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]The CIA knew it was bullshit but Cheney wanted there to be WMDs so chose to believe bullshit artists instead, if John Kiriakou is to be believed. One of the only times in history where CIA might have been the good guys.
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I was a young teen when it happened and it just seemed ridiculous that anyone would be naïve enough to fall for the extremely obvious lies.
I'm probably? a couple decades older than you, it's always been this way. My entire life has been Americans convincing other Americans to fuck their own country and futures for culture war bullshit, petty vengeances, and unmitigated greed on the promise that they'll get theirs too only to be left empty handed and worse off than before. Then they vote the same way again while complaining that all the problems are the same. The joke about the definition of insanity applies.
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America is a threat to world peace
Sad but true
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I mean, do you want to wait until they actually do have them? I'm not familiar with what Netanyahu has said, but years away seems like a good time to disrupt their program.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I don't think my nation has the right to control what other nations do through military force.
We do it, but I don't think we should
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Yes. They have a right to civilian nuclear power.
Hell they have just as much of a right to nukes as the US does. We shouldn't police the world.
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I mean, do you want to wait until they actually do have them? I'm not familiar with what Netanyahu has said, but years away seems like a good time to disrupt their program.
I mean hey, your username is on point for your opinion here but uh, no.
No, Netanyahu in particular has been stating Iran will have a nuke in months since about 1995.
Go check the Daily Show's (or maybe its Jon Stewart's?) YT channel for a quick montage recap of Bibi literally claiming this ssme thing for 30 fucking years.
It is 30 years later, and even the official consensus of the US's own intelligence communities is that Iran does not have a nuke, cannot achieve enrichment beyond about 60%.
And that only even happened because Trump trashed Obama's deal with Iran to keep enrichment to only low grade, nuclear power plant levels... which was working, and they were adhering to, and letting the IAEA in to verify.
Meanwhile they are being bombarded by a hostile nation state that has had nuclear weapons since roughly 1970, that constantly does everything it can to lie about that, to prevent IAEA inspectors from being assigned to them.
That nation state is Israel, if that wasn't clear.
So... Iran was previously cooperative and diplomatic.
Then Trump was a backstabbing, bellicose buffoon, and Iran... didn't even revert to MAD, they reverted to roughly 2 steps below MAD, as you'd have to run the 60% enriched uranium through an entire other industrial process to get it to weapons grade, which no one believes they can currently do, and then make that into actual bombs, which is a whole other thing entirely.
The Iranians have already shown themselves to be quite capable of rational negotiations about nukes, and adhere to agreements.
It is Israel and the US who have been irrational, agressive and underhanded, who have gone back on their word, and forced Iran into an impossible situation from their POV.
We could just maybe not act like insane warmongers, and Iran would likely go back to the negotiating table... us assuring them we will stop assasinating their negotiators might be a good first step.
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It wasn’t cool the first fucking time. It was totally obvious.
