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How to Game on Linux - Roger Presents Garuda [Swedish with EN subs]

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  • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

    I don't understand how that explains anything? If they aren't comfortable with English why are they making the title in English?

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    Spoken vs written word?

    I've forgotten (over the decades) two languages I can still correspond in eg via email, but wouldn't go past ordering food irl.

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    • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

      Unfortunately it's not that simple.

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      For the vast majority of games it really is that simple though.

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        For the vast majority of games it really is that simple though.

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        It isn't. Not for a single one.

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        • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

          It isn't. Not for a single one.

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          I have been on linux for 5 years and have playing games, and the numer of games that needed ANY configuration I can count on one hand.

          If you cant get STEAM games to work on your system, you're doing something wrong.

          Most games are just as simple as pressing start.

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            You are talking about an imaginary Audience

            The normal just switched from win guy who looks up youtube videos about how to game on linux knows and cares less about linux than my guinea pig (tho, I think she knows more about linux than me after listening to me try to install gentoo for a week straight, so idk). Telling them to use x kernel, y DE with z Kernel Flags with a changed vim.conf just makes it look like its a hassle to use Linux. If someone wants to learn about linux and go into such details, they will

            1. Not look up a frickin youtube video since they are the worst place to learn about anything which changes every month or so
            2. Look up something more akin to β€žWhich linux kernel is best for gamingβ€œ

            So by making it look like these are basic steps in order to get a game running is counterproductive if only meant well

            Its like if you would ask me how to drive a car, and I would go on a 2 hour tangent about synchronising the time the spark plugs fire and replacing the carburator for a more costum design so it sucks out the condensation out of the pipes after shutting off, therefore making corrosion less likely.

            Even tho I could have just as well told you to fill up the gas tank at a station and turn the keys, which would have brought me sufficient results anyway

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            Aye, alright fair enough.

            I won't argue with you.

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              I have been on linux for 5 years and have playing games, and the numer of games that needed ANY configuration I can count on one hand.

              If you cant get STEAM games to work on your system, you're doing something wrong.

              Most games are just as simple as pressing start.

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              Then you must have forgotten that 5 years ago you had to go into the settings and enable Steam Play, which is completely ridiculous, and incredibly unintuitive.

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              • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                It isn't. Not for a single one.

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                True. First you have to go into Steam settings and tick a box. Then you can play

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                • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                  Then you must have forgotten that 5 years ago you had to go into the settings and enable Steam Play, which is completely ridiculous, and incredibly unintuitive.

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                  One setting... Five years ago... I mean, if we're being that pedantic, I also need to install the game before I launch it.

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                    One setting... Five years ago... I mean, if we're being that pedantic, I also need to install the game before I launch it.

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                    Its not pedantic. I've seen entire videos made trashing Linux for this single reason, because they didn't know the setting existed. And how would they? It doesn't give any sort of prompt and "Steam Play" is just nonsense words that don't indicate anything having to do with linux.

                    That's just the tip of the iceberg, especially when looking at games outside of Steam. Because that becomes WAY more complicated. And we should want people to play more than just Steam games.

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                    • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                      Its not pedantic. I've seen entire videos made trashing Linux for this single reason, because they didn't know the setting existed. And how would they? It doesn't give any sort of prompt and "Steam Play" is just nonsense words that don't indicate anything having to do with linux.

                      That's just the tip of the iceberg, especially when looking at games outside of Steam. Because that becomes WAY more complicated. And we should want people to play more than just Steam games.

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                      We clearly have differing opinions on what the word "simple" means, as per your original reply.

                      I would argue that games outside of steam is almost as simple as steam, if not for the fact that you need to know what software to download in advanced.

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                        We clearly have differing opinions on what the word "simple" means, as per your original reply.

                        I would argue that games outside of steam is almost as simple as steam, if not for the fact that you need to know what software to download in advanced.

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                        We clearly have differing opinions on what the word "simple" means

                        "Simple" was my reply to a very specific statement of "hit the play button in Steam", it was not a generic statement. You're purposefully taking what I said out of context.

                        I would argue that games outside of steam is almost as simple as steam

                        And I would call that a blatant lie.

                        if not for the fact that you need to know what software to download in advanced

                        And a long list of information on how to configure it. Hence the tutorial.

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                        • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                          We clearly have differing opinions on what the word "simple" means

                          "Simple" was my reply to a very specific statement of "hit the play button in Steam", it was not a generic statement. You're purposefully taking what I said out of context.

                          I would argue that games outside of steam is almost as simple as steam

                          And I would call that a blatant lie.

                          if not for the fact that you need to know what software to download in advanced

                          And a long list of information on how to configure it. Hence the tutorial.

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                          What kind of gaes do you play? I've not needed to configue a single game in years, just download and play. I even pirate games and thattoo is just download and play. What kind of configuration are you talking about?

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                            What kind of gaes do you play? I've not needed to configue a single game in years, just download and play. I even pirate games and thattoo is just download and play. What kind of configuration are you talking about?

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                            If you already play games on Linux then you already know. There's no need for me to explain it. Just watch the video in OP.

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                              1. Download Heroic
                              2. Download drivers
                              3. Click play

                              Playing on Linux is not that hard. Dont make it look like it is.

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                              I so wish that was the case.

                              Half the games I tried on Heroic don't run and most of them run at <5 FPS even though I own a 4070 and the games I try to run are e.g. Bioshock. Number 1. The original, non-remastered one.

                              And stuff like Dawn of War crashes once I start the game, same as Bioshock 2, Neverwinter Nights and quite a few other older titles.

                              And even games that generally work fine (like Shadow of Mordor) sometimes randomly decide to run at 2 FPS.

                              If anyone has advice about what could cause that, I'd be grateful.

                              I'm on Fedora 41, running newest proprietary Nvidia drivers.

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                              • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                Why do you make an entire video in Swedish and then make the title in English?

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                                Because Youtube autotranslates these stupid titles. I hate that, since it makes it really hard to know whether you are going to understand the video before clicking it.

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                                  Because Youtube autotranslates these stupid titles. I hate that, since it makes it really hard to know whether you are going to understand the video before clicking it.

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                                  This is not YouTube.

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                                    I so wish that was the case.

                                    Half the games I tried on Heroic don't run and most of them run at <5 FPS even though I own a 4070 and the games I try to run are e.g. Bioshock. Number 1. The original, non-remastered one.

                                    And stuff like Dawn of War crashes once I start the game, same as Bioshock 2, Neverwinter Nights and quite a few other older titles.

                                    And even games that generally work fine (like Shadow of Mordor) sometimes randomly decide to run at 2 FPS.

                                    If anyone has advice about what could cause that, I'd be grateful.

                                    I'm on Fedora 41, running newest proprietary Nvidia drivers.

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                                    In that case you seriously fucked something up when installing the drivers

                                    You sure you only have 1 GPU? (No APU) and how did you install them drivers?

                                    And most importantly: What Wine prefix are you using, what wine Version, and did you restart your PC after doing updates?

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                                      In that case you seriously fucked something up when installing the drivers

                                      You sure you only have 1 GPU? (No APU) and how did you install them drivers?

                                      And most importantly: What Wine prefix are you using, what wine Version, and did you restart your PC after doing updates?

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                                      Playing on Linux is not that hard. Dont make it look like it is.

                                      you seriously fucked something up when installing the drivers
                                      how did you install them drivers?
                                      What Wine prefix are you using, what wine Version

                                      πŸ˜‚

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                                        In that case you seriously fucked something up when installing the drivers

                                        You sure you only have 1 GPU? (No APU) and how did you install them drivers?

                                        And most importantly: What Wine prefix are you using, what wine Version, and did you restart your PC after doing updates?

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                                        Yes, my CPU is an AMD Ryzen 7 7435HS which doesn't have an iGPU. My Nvidia 4070 is the only GPU present on my system.

                                        My GPU driver version is 570.153.02, which is the currently newest production version. When installing it, I used this guide: https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA

                                        I tried Wine-GE-Proton8-26, GE-Proton-latest, Proton Experimental and Proton 9 (Beta). I tried each of these options with Esync and Fsync enabled and disabled and every combination of these two options.

                                        I tried enabling/disabling VKD3D and DXVK-NVAPI.

                                        And of course I tried rebooting.

                                        I found quite a few people with similar issues online, but never with a fix that actually works. Most of the people with the same issues don't get any replies at all, and if they do it's some condescending posts from people who lucked out and don't have the same issue and think that that makes them better people or something.

                                        (For context, I am a software developer, I programmed for embedded Linux devices for 12 years now. I used Linux as my work OS for the last 7 years until I changed jobs half a year ago and my new company mandates Windows and now I have to deal with WSL. I use Linux as my main private OS for the last 3 years. I compiled kernels for embedded devices quite a few times. It's fair to say that I do have a little bit of experience when it comes to troubleshooting Linux issues, and I've gone through a lot of troubleshooting.)

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                                        • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                          Playing on Linux is not that hard. Dont make it look like it is.

                                          you seriously fucked something up when installing the drivers
                                          how did you install them drivers?
                                          What Wine prefix are you using, what wine Version

                                          πŸ˜‚

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                                          Just the right kind of humour.

                                          People with selection bias who lucked out that their setup doesn't cause issues and who then think they are somehow morally better people because of that.

                                          It's basically the Gospel of Prosperity but for Linux.

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