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Young US men are joining Russian churches promising 'absurd levels of manliness'

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      Always fun witnessing another round of people arguing over whose church is dumber.

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        doggedly backed the invasion of Ukraine, calling it a Holy War

        Yeah I don't really give a shit about their concept of the male gender. Apparently it involves fathering many children, so that Russia doesn't run out of soldiers for the hundred years of glorious holy war it will take to defeat NATO and save the world. If you really want to reach the ultimate heights of manliness, try wearing eye shadow, practicing embroidery, and watching Hello Kitty while remaining confidently masculine.

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          I feel bad for the men that get indoctrinated by this guy. Just like a lot of people that get taken in by religion, these people are looking for some understanding or change that really can only come from within but the church is promising that religion is the only way.

          These men don’t understand that there is no black and white/ universal version of “manliness”. We all have to decide for ourselves what “being a man” means.

          I go with a simple definition: as someone who was born a man and continues to identify as a man, my feeling is that, anything I do is “manly” because I am a man. Doesn’t matter if it’s sewing, hunting, or eating soup (which the preacher in the article seems to think is not manly)

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            that's like 3 layers of scam: church, manliness and absurd levels

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              Always fun witnessing another round of people arguing over whose church is dumber.

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              It's a hoot. These Ultra Incels think the Orthodox Church is going to hand them a submissive woman. Sounds like their new church is a sausage fest up in there.

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                Manliness has always been a scam.

                Source: me having grown up in the Balkans where manliness tends to reign supreme as a life goal

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                  Better use Jesus as a rolemodel than Andrew Tate

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                    15 dumbasses in East Bumblefuck: *do something*

                    BBC: A NEW GLOBAL TREND?!?!

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                      I feel bad for the men that get indoctrinated by this guy. Just like a lot of people that get taken in by religion, these people are looking for some understanding or change that really can only come from within but the church is promising that religion is the only way.

                      These men don’t understand that there is no black and white/ universal version of “manliness”. We all have to decide for ourselves what “being a man” means.

                      I go with a simple definition: as someone who was born a man and continues to identify as a man, my feeling is that, anything I do is “manly” because I am a man. Doesn’t matter if it’s sewing, hunting, or eating soup (which the preacher in the article seems to think is not manly)

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                      Reminds me of a scene in the Lone Wolf and Cub comic I read when I was younger.

                      I don't remember all the details, but there's a panel where the two most dangerous samurai in all of feudal Japan are camping out before a fight, and some rando is astonished that these high bred, noble, elite warriors are cooking their own rice. One of the two rips into him about self-sufficiency and how there aren't always servants to do your cooking for you, and what kind of warrior would just starve when he has no servants around?

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                        Reminds me of a scene in the Lone Wolf and Cub comic I read when I was younger.

                        I don't remember all the details, but there's a panel where the two most dangerous samurai in all of feudal Japan are camping out before a fight, and some rando is astonished that these high bred, noble, elite warriors are cooking their own rice. One of the two rips into him about self-sufficiency and how there aren't always servants to do your cooking for you, and what kind of warrior would just starve when he has no servants around?

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                        And what does the article say? Eating soup isn't manly? WTF? I'd like to hear his rationale for that one, but I'd probably lose a couple of IQ points reading it.

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                          I feel bad for the men that get indoctrinated by this guy. Just like a lot of people that get taken in by religion, these people are looking for some understanding or change that really can only come from within but the church is promising that religion is the only way.

                          These men don’t understand that there is no black and white/ universal version of “manliness”. We all have to decide for ourselves what “being a man” means.

                          I go with a simple definition: as someone who was born a man and continues to identify as a man, my feeling is that, anything I do is “manly” because I am a man. Doesn’t matter if it’s sewing, hunting, or eating soup (which the preacher in the article seems to think is not manly)

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                          Being a man is eating soup and being able to say "fuck you, I like soup."

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                            Being a man is eating soup and being able to say "fuck you, I like soup."

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                            And also being so confident, you don't need another man to tell you you're a big strong masculine man.

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                              Manliness has always been a scam.

                              Source: me having grown up in the Balkans where manliness tends to reign supreme as a life goal

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                              Manliness is an ideal intentionally placed out of reach. An insecurity to be exploited

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                                I feel bad for the men that get indoctrinated by this guy. Just like a lot of people that get taken in by religion, these people are looking for some understanding or change that really can only come from within but the church is promising that religion is the only way.

                                These men don’t understand that there is no black and white/ universal version of “manliness”. We all have to decide for ourselves what “being a man” means.

                                I go with a simple definition: as someone who was born a man and continues to identify as a man, my feeling is that, anything I do is “manly” because I am a man. Doesn’t matter if it’s sewing, hunting, or eating soup (which the preacher in the article seems to think is not manly)

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                                I think men are going to have to define foe themselves what secure masculinity looks like and how to achieve it.

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                                  And also being so confident, you don't need another man to tell you you're a big strong masculine man.

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                                  We need feminism but for men (which is a thing that kinda already exists but we need more)

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                                    And what does the article say? Eating soup isn't manly? WTF? I'd like to hear his rationale for that one, but I'd probably lose a couple of IQ points reading it.

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                                    Toxic masculinity is full of shaming men for random things that are arbitrarily defined as not manly. Nothing is more dangerous for a Man than not conforming to masculine gender norms

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                                      A younger brother of mine just baptized into an Orthodox church nearby. Is this the same thing?

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                                        This wispy-bearded Texan is in the vanguard of a movement urging conservatives to relocate to Russia. Last August, Putin introduced fast-track shared values visa for those fleeing Western liberalism.

                                        Oh no ... don't do that. Us lefties would hate if all our manly men left us to deal with these Haitians eating our dogs alone. That would trigger and own us so much.

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                                          A younger brother of mine just baptized into an Orthodox church nearby. Is this the same thing?

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                                          The Russian Orthodox are in schism from most other Orthodox. You'll need to get more information to get an answer to that question.

                                          Russian Orthodoxy was established from it's foundation as a fake religion that exists to keep political power in Moscow. This is very different from other Orthodox.

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