Young US men are joining Russian churches promising 'absurd levels of manliness'
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Says the man in the nun outfit
Can you really say you're the manliest men if you're not comfortable wearing women's clothing?
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I know at least few Russian-speaking people where I live (Kraków) who tried to convert me to their church. One Uber (or Bolt idk) driver, when I told him that I am interested in practicing Russian and Ukrainian wanted me to come to some church to read a Bible or something, and other time one friend of mine wanted me to come to (I think) Orthodox church to meet some women or something like that.
I think I make an error, when I tell people I am agnostic, it's like a sign for other people to try convert me, and I don't really want to argue with them.
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So, all these "manly" men need a fluffer to make them more "manly"?
I find the obsession with being super manly that some types have to be highly suspicious. Seems they are either very insecure or seeking manliness out of a closeted gay urge. Because it's just not the kind of thing you need to go get help with. Performant manliness is still a performance.
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Not worrying about it has been a solution that has worked well for me. Having a close friend who's lesbian helped a lot too. She taught me a lot about being true to one's self, and I love her for it. In the next life, if she's into men or I'm a woman, we'll get together. In this life, we don't have sex, but there are plenty of other ways to show love for someone. She's my sister from another mother.
Having women friends is generally a good vaccine against this nonsense
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Church is (almost) free therapy though, problem is that some church leaders want to use believers for their own benefit
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Most organized religion is psychological abuse
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Can you really say you're the manliest men if you're not comfortable wearing women's clothing?
Yeah, a lot of this "manliness" sure sounds a lot like just having a great deal of things to worry about emasculating you.
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IF you can be shamed into going a Russian church to be manly, you are headed in the opposite direction from the path to manliness - you become a pussy who can only follow.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]So then it's womanly to follow? Sounds sexist and lame to me.
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And yet you're describing a wide percentage of young men
Having once been a young man, there’s a period where one questions their role in the world and accordingly acts the fool before figuring it out. I had an upbringing with more than adequate parents and education that helped me through that period without me making an ass of myself often enough to be singled out as being an exceptional ass. I am lucky. Some people aren’t and they act out. And those that are exceptional asees act out and are really self important and noisy. Mostly just to hear themselves and drown out the voices of those who are telling them to stop being such an ass.
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Only 75, per the article. No one writes articles like this about women getting into Wicca even though it's hundreds of times more common
What’s wrong with Wicca? The women I’ve met who were into that were very nice and a ton of fun and the “worst” of them were just delightfully odd. Unlike the strutting asshole men which the OP concerns who are all up in themselves and their supposed “masculinity”. FWIW, I was an athlete when I was young and met and defeated more than my share of these jackasses. Lost to few too. But that’s sport. And unlike those guys, I learned the right lessons from sport. They never will.
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I agree with you. I see that what feminism fights for is good for men too, and lots of the "rank-and-file" of feminism has no issues with men, but if i would ask at a meeting what we could do for men so that they can get out of the patriarchate and feel safe, i'm pretty sure that i would get a lot of blank stares and then an earful.
There are not many groups which work on what a male-centric approach to get rid of the patriarchate might even look like, or what men would need in a system that has gotten rid of the patriarchate so that an equilibrium can be reached (and not patriarchate 2: electric feminism).
but if i would ask at a meeting what we could do for men so that they can get out of the patriarchate and feel safe, i'm pretty sure that i would get a lot of blank stares and then an earful.
yeah this is a great point and it's not even the case that [feminists are uninterested in the issues facing men] because i think a lot of them will agree with fervor that patriarchy is harmful to men and perpetuates the issues they experience.
but shit brother they got enough problems they're trying to solve on their own time. these aren't just upstream issues, they're a separate branch of the same river.
