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  • xthexder@l.sw0.comX [email protected]

    Let me explain how it works when you self host like me:

    • "All" starts out completely empty, there are no federated instances to find this way.
    • You then have to browse communities on other instances and subscribe to them on your own instance. Only then will posts start showing up in "All".
    • Since there's only 1 user, the list of communities in "All" is the exact same list of communities in "Subscribed"

    For most people yes, you can just browse "All" unless you're on a smaller instance, since someone on your Instance has probably already subscribed to the community you're looking for.

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    Huh, I didn't realize that All including all federated communities must be a Thunder-specific feature.

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      Saw it in my feed btw

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        Idk man, the universe is an algorithm.

        Everything I did, am doing, and will do, are all part of the algorithm. I have no control. Free will is a lie. Even the act of me typing this comment, is not of my free will. The neurons are making me do it. AH FUCK STOOOOP IT YE FUCKING NEURONS, BAD NEURONS...

        Everything is fine, I have free will, disregard everything above, that's the other half of the brain in this body that's being weird.

        THERE IS NO FREE WILL

        AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

        You did not choose Lemmy. Lemmy chose you! Accept your fate. Accept Determinism.

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        Reddit is clearly the Bad Place.

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          I was just thinking about this yesterday. These days, Lemmy is just making me depressed. I like to read comments to get further insight to articles, maybe someone trying to point out the author's bias, or a joke. But Lemmy comments are all some variation of "the world is doomed", "kill this person", or "capitalism is the root of all woe". They are neither useful, insightful, or improve my day in any way. Lemmy is making my life less enjoyable. It was already an overall negative and cynical space during the Biden administration; now it is unbearable.

          I've been on Lemmy for a long time now, since Reddit killed 3rd party clients with their API change, but now I think I might go back to Reddit. The company itself has a lot of problems, but at least I can get a lot of non-doom content to fill my day.

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          To be fair, I don't think Lemmy is to blame for all the negativity. It's impossible to escape politics nowadays thanks to American dominance in social media. And since the US is a dumpster fire since 2016, the rest of the world gets to be a dumpster fire as well.

          In my opinion, Lemmy is the least negative social media platform out there and that's saying something. I advise against going back to Reddit. I take peeks at it every once in a while and oh boy did things go downhill since I deleted my Reddit account after the API changes.

          The best way to deal with all of this is to limit your exposure to social media all together.

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            Open source, tunable locally running content discovery and search with crowd sourced share preference models (like, people who like x probably like y)

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              It's almost like...one is the leader of the richest country in the world and the other is running a government office that's dismantling the government.

              Seriously, if you guys were alive in the 1930s or 1940s you'd be there like "I just can't pick up the paper anymore without talk of this Hitler guy!".

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              People keep saying that and although he's abhorrent and probably a threat to democracy in the US I don't think he's going to start a war. He lacks a convenient victim that he can use to justify a war, and honestly I don't think he's smart enough to come up with one.

              Anyway a war wouldn't achieve anything for him other than getting a target on his back.

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                No algorithm makes social networks so annoying. Lemmy is so much annoying because of this. I always see the same stuff, aka US news and some shitposts, the usual upvoted and trending stuff

                There’s no discovery algorithm and no way to see posts from smaller subscribed communities easily. Each sorting method returns non-interesting posts.

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                  No algorithm makes social networks so annoying. Lemmy is so much annoying because of this. I always see the same stuff, aka US news and some shitposts, the usual upvoted and trending stuff

                  There’s no discovery algorithm and no way to see posts from smaller subscribed communities easily. Each sorting method returns non-interesting posts.

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                  People say algorithms hook you and make you dependent: they show you the stuff you want, so you stay for longer. If I didn’t want to see stuff I want, I wouldn’t go to Lemmy…

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                    If you limit yourself exclusively to communities where the “no politics” rule is actually enforced, you’ll exhaust new content within about two minutes each day.

                    It's almost like US politics are a historic fucking shit show and that affects many other things.

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                    Doesn't mean I want to spend all day everyday reading about it. I have other interests.

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                    • azalty@jlai.luA [email protected]

                      No algorithm makes social networks so annoying. Lemmy is so much annoying because of this. I always see the same stuff, aka US news and some shitposts, the usual upvoted and trending stuff

                      There’s no discovery algorithm and no way to see posts from smaller subscribed communities easily. Each sorting method returns non-interesting posts.

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                      We need open source, local running, use tunable, auditable, collectively shareable content discovery algorithm

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                      • azalty@jlai.luA [email protected]

                        People say algorithms hook you and make you dependent: they show you the stuff you want, so you stay for longer. If I didn’t want to see stuff I want, I wouldn’t go to Lemmy…

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                        They really do. Most of these algorithms have been developed by the same people that work at casinos algorithms. Lemmy is a forum like, social media.

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                          Idk man, the universe is an algorithm.

                          Everything I did, am doing, and will do, are all part of the algorithm. I have no control. Free will is a lie. Even the act of me typing this comment, is not of my free will. The neurons are making me do it. AH FUCK STOOOOP IT YE FUCKING NEURONS, BAD NEURONS...

                          Everything is fine, I have free will, disregard everything above, that's the other half of the brain in this body that's being weird.

                          THERE IS NO FREE WILL

                          AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

                          You did not choose Lemmy. Lemmy chose you! Accept your fate. Accept Determinism.

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                          Good use of this image lol. But wait till you see the time knife.

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                            We need open source, local running, use tunable, auditable, collectively shareable content discovery algorithm

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                            All for it, except maybe for it to run locally. An instance running it will be faster as it already has all posts and comments stored.

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                              They really do. Most of these algorithms have been developed by the same people that work at casinos algorithms. Lemmy is a forum like, social media.

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                              I'm sure they do, but I want them. It doesn’t have to be dumb content. It can make you discover and learn things while being addicting.

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                              • azalty@jlai.luA [email protected]

                                I'm sure they do, but I want them. It doesn’t have to be dumb content. It can make you discover and learn things while being addicting.

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                                Somewhat yes but it also enables echo chambers

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                                  Technology Connections put out a video recently about this, it's quite entertaining:
                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJpZjg8GuA

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                                    Reddit is clearly the Bad Place.

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                                    Life is the bad place.

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                                    • azalty@jlai.luA [email protected]

                                      No algorithm makes social networks so annoying. Lemmy is so much annoying because of this. I always see the same stuff, aka US news and some shitposts, the usual upvoted and trending stuff

                                      There’s no discovery algorithm and no way to see posts from smaller subscribed communities easily. Each sorting method returns non-interesting posts.

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                                      Weird, I have my subscribed feeds from which I always see posts but I regularly see new stuff from subs I am not subscribed to and regularly it's something interesting

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                                        All for it, except maybe for it to run locally. An instance running it will be faster as it already has all posts and comments stored.

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                                        I want it all in a physical object in my home, that I can throw in the furnace any time. I don't mind the extra milliseconds, I want it in my computer not someone else's computer aka the cloud

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                                        • azalty@jlai.luA [email protected]

                                          No algorithm makes social networks so annoying. Lemmy is so much annoying because of this. I always see the same stuff, aka US news and some shitposts, the usual upvoted and trending stuff

                                          There’s no discovery algorithm and no way to see posts from smaller subscribed communities easily. Each sorting method returns non-interesting posts.

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                                          Sort by new is your answer here.

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