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Kill your Feeds - Stop letting algorithms dictate how you think

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    Open source, tunable locally running content discovery and search with crowd sourced share preference models (like, people who like x probably like y)

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      It's almost like...one is the leader of the richest country in the world and the other is running a government office that's dismantling the government.

      Seriously, if you guys were alive in the 1930s or 1940s you'd be there like "I just can't pick up the paper anymore without talk of this Hitler guy!".

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      People keep saying that and although he's abhorrent and probably a threat to democracy in the US I don't think he's going to start a war. He lacks a convenient victim that he can use to justify a war, and honestly I don't think he's smart enough to come up with one.

      Anyway a war wouldn't achieve anything for him other than getting a target on his back.

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        No algorithm makes social networks so annoying. Lemmy is so much annoying because of this. I always see the same stuff, aka US news and some shitposts, the usual upvoted and trending stuff

        There’s no discovery algorithm and no way to see posts from smaller subscribed communities easily. Each sorting method returns non-interesting posts.

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          No algorithm makes social networks so annoying. Lemmy is so much annoying because of this. I always see the same stuff, aka US news and some shitposts, the usual upvoted and trending stuff

          There’s no discovery algorithm and no way to see posts from smaller subscribed communities easily. Each sorting method returns non-interesting posts.

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          People say algorithms hook you and make you dependent: they show you the stuff you want, so you stay for longer. If I didn’t want to see stuff I want, I wouldn’t go to Lemmy…

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            If you limit yourself exclusively to communities where the “no politics” rule is actually enforced, you’ll exhaust new content within about two minutes each day.

            It's almost like US politics are a historic fucking shit show and that affects many other things.

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            Doesn't mean I want to spend all day everyday reading about it. I have other interests.

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            • azalty@jlai.luA [email protected]

              No algorithm makes social networks so annoying. Lemmy is so much annoying because of this. I always see the same stuff, aka US news and some shitposts, the usual upvoted and trending stuff

              There’s no discovery algorithm and no way to see posts from smaller subscribed communities easily. Each sorting method returns non-interesting posts.

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              We need open source, local running, use tunable, auditable, collectively shareable content discovery algorithm

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                People say algorithms hook you and make you dependent: they show you the stuff you want, so you stay for longer. If I didn’t want to see stuff I want, I wouldn’t go to Lemmy…

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                They really do. Most of these algorithms have been developed by the same people that work at casinos algorithms. Lemmy is a forum like, social media.

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                  Idk man, the universe is an algorithm.

                  Everything I did, am doing, and will do, are all part of the algorithm. I have no control. Free will is a lie. Even the act of me typing this comment, is not of my free will. The neurons are making me do it. AH FUCK STOOOOP IT YE FUCKING NEURONS, BAD NEURONS...

                  Everything is fine, I have free will, disregard everything above, that's the other half of the brain in this body that's being weird.

                  THERE IS NO FREE WILL

                  AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

                  You did not choose Lemmy. Lemmy chose you! Accept your fate. Accept Determinism.

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                  Good use of this image lol. But wait till you see the time knife.

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                    We need open source, local running, use tunable, auditable, collectively shareable content discovery algorithm

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                    All for it, except maybe for it to run locally. An instance running it will be faster as it already has all posts and comments stored.

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                      They really do. Most of these algorithms have been developed by the same people that work at casinos algorithms. Lemmy is a forum like, social media.

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                      I'm sure they do, but I want them. It doesn’t have to be dumb content. It can make you discover and learn things while being addicting.

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                      • azalty@jlai.luA [email protected]

                        I'm sure they do, but I want them. It doesn’t have to be dumb content. It can make you discover and learn things while being addicting.

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                        Somewhat yes but it also enables echo chambers

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                          Technology Connections put out a video recently about this, it's quite entertaining:
                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJpZjg8GuA

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                            Reddit is clearly the Bad Place.

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                            Life is the bad place.

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                              No algorithm makes social networks so annoying. Lemmy is so much annoying because of this. I always see the same stuff, aka US news and some shitposts, the usual upvoted and trending stuff

                              There’s no discovery algorithm and no way to see posts from smaller subscribed communities easily. Each sorting method returns non-interesting posts.

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                              Weird, I have my subscribed feeds from which I always see posts but I regularly see new stuff from subs I am not subscribed to and regularly it's something interesting

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                                All for it, except maybe for it to run locally. An instance running it will be faster as it already has all posts and comments stored.

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                                I want it all in a physical object in my home, that I can throw in the furnace any time. I don't mind the extra milliseconds, I want it in my computer not someone else's computer aka the cloud

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                                  No algorithm makes social networks so annoying. Lemmy is so much annoying because of this. I always see the same stuff, aka US news and some shitposts, the usual upvoted and trending stuff

                                  There’s no discovery algorithm and no way to see posts from smaller subscribed communities easily. Each sorting method returns non-interesting posts.

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                                  Sort by new is your answer here.

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                                    Technology Connections put out a video recently about this, it's quite entertaining:
                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJpZjg8GuA

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                                    OMG, I was just going to say the same thing!

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                                      OMG, I was just going to say the same thing!

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                                      Nice to see another fan in the wild! 😄

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                                        Sort by new is your answer here.

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                                        Shows uninteresting posts / trash posts containing a few words or so

                                        And also mainly shows posts from bigger communities. Smaller communities tend to have much less posts per day/per month, so seeing one is really rare

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                                          No algorithm makes social networks so annoying. Lemmy is so much annoying because of this. I always see the same stuff, aka US news and some shitposts, the usual upvoted and trending stuff

                                          There’s no discovery algorithm and no way to see posts from smaller subscribed communities easily. Each sorting method returns non-interesting posts.

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                                          Through the Voyager phone app I sometimes use the 'random community' search option to make Lemmy like StumbleUpon. I dont see this random option through desktop though...maybe its a Voyager thing

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